Bruno Cornacchiola: I tell you the message that Our Lady has entrusted to me

I do not hide the emotion and also the embarrassment felt in the meeting with Bruno Cornacchiola. I had made an appointment for the interview with him. I introduce myself on time with my friend photographer Ullo Drogo, in the dignified house where he resides, in a quiet and peripheral area of ​​Rome. He welcomes us very cordially; its simplicity immediately puts us at ease; he gives us and wants you. He is a man in his seventies, beard and white hair, spontaneous gestures, sweet eyes, slightly hoarse voice. He also proves to be an energetic and determined man, with brisk ways. His answers are immediate. We are impressed by the charge of conviction with which he speaks as well as his tender love for the Virgin, attachment to the Church, devotion to the Pope and priests.

After the interview, he accompanies us to the chapel for a prayer. Then he introduces us to some members of the community he founded and that lives with him. The Church has not yet pronounced on the apparitions of Our Lady, - but follows the story and its developments with interest. Regardless of this, we believe that Bruno Cornacchiola is a credible witness.

Dear Cornacchiola, you are witness to facts that arouse ironic curiosity in skeptics and keen interest in believers. How do you feel in front of this mystery that overcomes you?

I always speak in a simple way. The mystery that I experienced, the apparition of the Madonna, I compare it with the mystery that the priest has. He is invested with a divine power for the salvation of others. He does not notice the great power he has, but lives it and distributes it to others. So it is for me before this great fact. I have the grace not so much to see the greatness of what happened, but to live a fully Christian life.
Let's start with the background. You were an unbeliever, a bitter enemy of the Church and you had in mind to kill Pope Pius XII. How did you get so hateful?

I hated through ignorance, that is, the lack of knowledge of the things of God. As a young man I belonged to the Action Party and to a Protestant sect, to the Adventists. From these I received a form of hatred for the Church and its dogmas. I was not an unbeliever, but only full of hatred towards the Church. I thought I had reached the truth, but in fighting the Church I hated the truth. I wanted to kill the pope to free the people from slavery and ignorance in which, as they taught me, the Church kept him. What I intended to do I was sure it was for the benefit of humanity.
Then one day, April 12, 1947, you were the protagonist of an event that made your life change course. In an infamous and peripheral area of ​​Rome, you "saw" the Madonna. Can you briefly say how exactly things went?

Here we must make a premise. Among the Adventists I had become director of missionary youth. In this capacity I tried to educate the youth to reject the Eucharist, which is not the real presence of Christ; to reject the Virgin, who is not Immaculate, to reject the Pope who is not infallible. I had to talk about these subjects in Rome, in Piazza della Croce Croce, on April 13, 1947, which was Sunday. The day before, Saturday, I wanted to take my family to the countryside. My wife was sick. I took the children with me alone: ​​Isola, 10 years old; Carlo, 7 years old; Gianfranco, 4 years old. I also took the Bible, a notebook and a pencil, to write notes on what I had to say the following day.

Without dwelling on me, while the children play, they lose and find the ball. I play it with them, but the ball is lost again. I'm going to find the ball with Carlo. Isola goes to pick some flowers. The youngest child remains alone, seated at the foot of an eucalyptus tree, in front of a natural cave. At some point I call the boy, but he doesn't answer me. Concerned, I approach him and see him kneeling in front of the cave. I hear him murmur: "Beautiful lady!" I think of a game. I call Isola and this comes with a bunch of flowers in her hand and she kneels too, exclaiming: "Beautiful lady!"

Then I see that Charles also kneels and exclaims: «Beautiful lady! ». I try to get them up, but they seem heavy. I get scared and wonder: what happens? I am not thinking of an apparition, but of a spell. Suddenly I see two very white hands coming out of the cave, they touch my eyes and I don't see them anymore. Then I see a magnificent, shining light, as if the sun had entered the cave and I see what my children call the "Beautiful Lady". She is barefoot, with a green coat on her head, a very white dress and a pink band with two flaps up to the knee. In his hand he has an ash-colored book. She speaks to me and says to me: "I am what I am in the divine Trinity: I am the Virgin of Revelation" and adds: "You persecute me. Thats enough. Enter the fold and obey. » Then he added many other things for the Pope, for the Church, for the saderdotes, for the religious.
How do you explain the announcement of this apparition made ten years earlier, by the Madonna herself, to Luigina Sinapi and through her to the future Pope Pius XII?

Here I cannot pronounce myself. They have already told me this fact. I would be happy if there had been, but every fact must have a strong testimony. Now if this testimony is there, they will pull it out, if it isn't, let them talk about it.
Let's go back to the appearance of the Three Fountains. In that and subsequent apparitions as you saw the Madonna: sad or happy, worried or serene?

See, sometimes the Virgin speaks with a sadness on her face. It is especially sad when he speaks of the Church and priests. This sadness of his, however, is maternal. She says: “I am the mother of pure clergy, of the holy clergy, of the faithful clergy, of the united clergy. I want the clergy to be truly as my Son wants it ».
Forgive me for impertinence, but I think our readers all have the desire to ask you this question: can you describe us, if you can, how is Our Lady physically?

I can describe her as an oriental woman, slender, brunette, beautiful but not black eyes, dark complexion, long black hair. A beautiful woman. What if I have to give her an age? A woman aged 18 to 22. Young in spirit and physique. I have seen the Virgin thus.
On April 12 of last year I also saw the strange wonders of the sun at the Three Fountains, which rotated on itself changing its color and which could be fixed without being disturbed in the eyes. I was immersed in a crowd of around 10 people. What meaning did this phenomenon have?

First of all the Virgin when she does these wonders or phenomena, as you say, is to call humanity to conversion. But she also does it to draw the attention of the authority to believe that she has come down to earth.
Why do you think the Madonna appeared so many times and in so many different places in our century?

The Virgin appeared in different places, even in private homes, to good people to encourage them, guide them, illuminate them on their mission. But there are some rather particular places that are brought to a worldwide prominence. In these cases the Virgin always appears to call back. It is like an aid, an aid, an aid that she gives to the Church, the mystical Body of her Son. She does not say new things, but she is a mother who tries by all means to call her children back to the path of love, peace, forgiveness, conversion.
Let's analyze some of the contents of the apparition. What was the topic of your dialogue with the Madonna?

The topic is vast. The first time he spoke to me for an hour and twenty minutes. The other times he sent me messages that then came true.
How many times has Our Lady appeared to you?

It is already 27 times that the Virgin deigns to be seen by this poor creature. See, the Virgin in these 27 times has not always spoken; sometimes she only appeared to console me. Sometimes she presented herself in the same dress, other times in a white dress only. When he spoke to me, he did it first for me, then for the world. And every time I have received some message I have given it to the Church. Those who do not obey the confessor, the spiritual director, the Church cannot be called Christian; those who do not attend the sacraments, those who do not love, believe and live in the Eucharist, the Virgin and the Pope. When she speaks, the Virgin says what she is, what we must do or a single person; but even more he wants prayer and penance from all of us. I remember these recommendations: "The Ave Marìa you say with faith and love are many golden arrows that reach the Heart of my Son Jesus" and "Attend the first nine Fridays of the month, because it is a promise of the Heart of my Son"
Why did Our Lady introduce herself as the Virgin of Revelation? Is there a precise reference to the Bible?

Because I, as a Protestant, tried to fight it with the Bible. Instead those who do not obey the Church, dogmas, tradition, do not obey the Bible. The Virgin presented herself with the Bible in her hand, as if to tell me: you can write against me, but I am the one who is written here: Immaculate, always Virgin. Mother of God, Assumed into Heaven. I remember he said to me, “My flesh could not rot and did not rot. And I, taken by my Son and by the angels, was taken to Heaven. And the Divine Trinity crowned me Queen ”.
All his words?

Yes. It was an invitation to the Bible, even before the Council came. The Virgin tried to tell me: you fight me with Revelation, instead I am in Revelation.
Has the Tre Fontane message been made completely public, or will we understand its importance in the future?

See, I handed everything over to the Church, through P. Rotondi and P. Lombardi. On 9 December 1949 P. Rotondi took me to Pope Pius XII, who hugged me and forgave me.
What did the Pope say to you?

After the prayer to the Virgin, which they made me read on Vatican Radio, the Pope turned towards us tramway drivers and asked: - Any of you have to speak to me? . I replied: "I, Your Holiness" He advanced and asked me: "What is it, my son? ». And I gave him two items: the Protestant Bible and the dagger I had bought in Spain and which was to be used to kill him. I asked him for forgiveness and he clutching my chest comforted me with these words: “The best forgiveness is repentance. Go easy"
Let's go back to the Three Fountains. What is the message that Our Lady has entrusted to you?

Humanity must return to Christ. We must not seek union, but the unity desired by him. The boat of Peter, the fold of Christ await all humanity. Open dialogue with everyone, speak to the world, walk the world by setting a good example of a Christian life.
Is it therefore a message of salvation, optimism and confidence in the future?

Yes, but there are also other things that I cannot say and that the Church knows. I believe that John Paul II read them on February 23, 1982, the Virgin appearing to me, also spoke to me about him: what he must do and how he must do it, and not to be afraid of the attacks, because she will be close to him.
Will the pope still suffer attacks?

See, I can't say anything, but the attack on the Pope is not only the physical one. How many children spiritually attack him! They listen and don't do what they say. They beat his hands, but they don't obey him.
John Paul II wanted the Holy Year to stimulate humanity today to welcome the gift of salvation. What role do you think Maria SS. in this difficult "dialogue" between Christ and the man of today?

First of all it must be said that the Virgin is an instrument, used by divine mercy to attract humanity. She is a mother who knows, loves and lives the truth to make it known, loved and lived by all of us. She is a mother who calls us all to God.
How do you see the particular relationship of love that exists between the Pope and Our Lady?

The Holy Virgin told me that she loves John Paul II in a special way and he continually shows us that he loves the Madonna. However. And you have to write this, the Virgin awaits him at the Three Fountains, because the whole world must consecrate them to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
The anniversary of the first apparition on April 12 is approaching this year. Is it indiscreet to ask yourself if there will be any particular "sign" of the Madonna at the Three Fountains?

I don't know anything so far. Does the Virgin want to do it? At your convenience. What you ask is whoever goes to the Cave pray for the next one and he himself gets converted, because that place becomes a place of expiation, as if it were purgatory.
You go around the world, and with your testimony you do great good to the people. But if you could speak to the heads of state, to the men of government, what would you like to whisper or shout?

I would say to everyone: why don't we really love each other, to do all one thing, in one God, under one Shepherd? Why not love us and help us? If we do so, we will be in peace, harmony and unity desired by the Virgin.
So a message that stimulates us to good and peace?

They never questioned me about this. You are perhaps the first, because the Holy Virgin inspires you to ask me this question. Yes, that of the Tre Fontane is a message of peace: why don't we love each other in peace? It's so nice to be all together. Do we want to agree to love each other and to form a unity on earth of love, intent and ideas? Ideology must not be hegemony.
I heartily thank you and ask you one last question: what do you say to the readers of this Marian magazine, which you know?

When we receive a magazine like this, which is not a careerist but is a means of spreading the Word of God and Marian devotion, I say: subscribe, read it and love it. This is Maria's magazine.