Ivan of Medjugorje: all that Our Lady is planning for the world

Everything that Our Lady plans, will make it happen - Conversation with Ivan Dragicevic, June 26, 2005 in Medjugorje

On June 25, 2005, in Medjugorje, during the apparition medical tests were carried out on the visionary Ivan Dragicevic and the visionary Marija Pavlovic Lunetti by a French medical commission led by Prof. Henri Joyeux. We see Ivan Dragicevic connected to different medical devices. Already in 1984 Prof. Henri Joyeux with his team had conducted medical tests on the visionaries of Medjugorje together with the famous Mariologist Prof. Rene Laurentin.

Ivan, you have returned from America since May to be present here in Medjugorje for pilgrims. How was the anniversary for you?

Each anniversary is a new reminder of the years behind us. We are not the only ones to remember, but Our Lady herself brings us back to those first days and years that have passed. He chooses some moments that have been particularly important. Now I am still under the influence of everything that has happened here in the past few days. The sensations I felt in those days are still very much alive in me. When I think back to the past 24 years, I see that there have been many good things, but also bad things from the communist power. But if we look at the crowds of people who come from all over the world, today we can truly be grateful to Our Lady for this spiritual renewal that she works in the Church and through which she gives birth to a new world. This for me is the largest visible sign. All these people become witnesses of a spiritual renewal of the Church. If we look around in the church of Medjugorje, we see pilgrims who thirst for a living faith, confession and the Eucharist. This is what Our Lady has accomplished with her humility.

On the anniversary day you witnessed the apparition. Can you describe your personal experience?

It is a special moment when you come and it is happy and peaceful. This time, when she came, she saw the tools they had applied to me. I think the anniversary doesn't necessarily have to be the time for scientific exams, but we agreed. For me, the anniversary means joy and naturalness, but this time they were not complete because I had to be careful to kneel so as not to detach the equipment that had been applied to me. Personally, I think we can now stop with exams and doubts, and therefore I say that if you have faith, there is no need for new scientific evidence continuously, since you can recognize from the outside, from the fruits, what really happens here.

Ivan, during the apparition you saw the Holy Father John Paul II. Can you describe what happened?

On April 2, 2005, I had been in the car for three hours already on the road to New Hampshire, a state near Boston, when my wife called me to tell me that the Pope was dead. We continued driving and arrived at a church where over a thousand people had gathered. The Rosary began at 18pm and the apparition was at 18.40pm. Our Lady arrived very joyful and as always prayed for everyone and blessed everyone who was in the church. After I recommended those present to you, the Holy Father appeared on His left.

He looked like a person in his 60s but looked younger; he was facing the Madonna and smiling. When I observed the Holy Father, Our Lady also looked at him. After some time, Our Lady looked again at me and said these words to me: “Dear son! Look, my son, he is with me. "

The moment I saw the Holy Father lasted about 45 seconds. If I had to describe the moment when I saw the Holy Father beside the Madonna, I would say that he was as if wrapped in an intimate embrace of the heavenly Mother. I have never had the opportunity to meet the Holy Father when he was alive, even if the other visionaries have personally met him several times. For this reason, today I am particularly grateful to Our Lady for having had the opportunity to see the Holy Father with her in Paradise.

What more can you tell us to conclude?

What Our Lady began here in Medjugorje on June 24, 1981, what began in the world, does not stop, but continues. I would really like to say to all those who read these words, that all together we must accept what Our Lady wants from us so intensely.

It's nice to describe the Madonna and all the other external things that happen, but the focus is on the messages. These must welcome, live and testify. Everything that Our Lady has designed will accomplish it, even without me, Ivan, or without the parish priest Father Branko, even without Bishop Peric. For all this journey is in the plans of God and He is superior to us men.

Source: Medjugorje - An invitation to prayer