Medjugorje: the seer Vicka describes the ten secrets

Janko: Vicka, I already told you that I can't understand why you have an incomprehensible discretion among you when it comes to the Sign of the Madonna or its secrets; yet they are things that he has talked to you about extensively.
Vicka: What do you find strange in this?
Janko: I'm not surprised that you keep these things secret from us, but I'm surprised that you don't talk about it among yourselves. Indeed, each of you has confided to me that you do not have even the slightest temptation to talk about it among you, although you do not know all things equally about this. Look, for example, at the case of Maria.
Vicka: Which case?
Janko: This. As far as I know, she is the only one who does not know when the Madonna will leave her promised sign, but she only knows what nature that sign is. Yet he told me that he never felt the desire to ask anyone of you; and neither do you feel the desire to tell him.
Vicka: In my opinion there is nothing strange in this.
Janko: But how not? In my opinion, it's not strange that you don't talk about these things; but that you don't even feel like doing it, I don't understand.
Vicka: And how do you keep the secrets of confession?
Janko: Sorry, Vicka, but I think it's a little different.
Vicka: Maybe it's different for you, but not for us.
Janko: Okay. So can we end by saying that you never even get tempted to tell someone something about it?
Vicka: No, never. How then it is, I can't explain it to you. Our Lady assists us and it is she who keeps her secrets.
Janko: How long will you keep them?
Vicka: As long as you want it. We will see this.
Janko: Someone will see it, but somebody won't. Meanwhile, I have always remained at the starting point ...
Janko: Vicka, whenever we talk about the apparitions of Our Lady, we usually also talk about some of her secrets. This was also the case in Medjugorje.
Vicka: I knew nothing about this. I don't know if you can believe me, that I didn't know anything about the apparitions of Our Lady in Lourdes, while I had been meeting with her for more than a year, in Podbrdo and Medjugorje. I knew how to sing and sang "It is the hour that pious" [the chant of Lourdes], but I had no idea what it was. And to be honest, I don't want to hear a single word about the secrets of Our Lady, except those of Medjugorje, if you are interested in something.
Janko: Of course I'm interested. I have tried many times to penetrate its meaning, but with all this, a whole mystery has remained for me.
Vicka: What can I do about it? Mysteries are mysteries.
Janko: I think you are all too closed about this.
Vicka: You can think what you want. I know what I'm allowed to say and what I'm not allowed to say.
Janko: Okay. As far as I have been able to understand, do not even talk to each other about the Sign or the secrets.
Vicka: Little or nothing.
Janko: Why? When I ask you something, for example if it is Our Lady who has forbidden you, you simply pretend not to hear what I ask you.
Vicka: We don't really feel it! Then we don't want to talk about this and that's it.
Janko: Why?
Vicka: Go ahead if you still have something.
Janko: Tell me first of all how many secrets Our Lady promised to confide in you.
Vicka: You know that for sure. But I repeat to you: he told us he would reveal ten secrets to us.
Janko: To each of you are you?
Vicka: As far as I know, everyone.
Janko: Are these secrets the same for everyone?
Vicka: Yes and no.
Janko: In what sense?
Vicka: That's it: the main secrets are the same. But it may be that someone has some secret that concerns him personally.
Janko: Do ​​you have one of these secrets?
Vicka: Yes, one. This only affects me.
Janko: Do ​​others have secrets like that?
Vicka: I don't know that. It seems to me that Ivan has it.
Janko: I know, because they told me, that Mirjana, Ivanka and Maria don't have any. I don't know about little Jakov; he didn't want to answer this question. Ivan instead once told me that he has three that concern only him.
Vicka: I told you what I know.
Janko: Tell me again: in numerical order, what is the secret that only concerns you?
Vicka: Leave me alone! This only affects me!
Janko: But at least you could tell me, without revealing the secret.
Vicka: If you really want to know, it's the fourth. Now shut up.
Janko: Then can't you tell me anything else about it?
Vicka: Move on. What I could say I told you.
Janko: Anything else?
Vicka: No. Otherwise the secret would no longer be secret.
Janko: Vicka, can you tell me how many secrets you've received so far?
Vicka: Otto, for now. [He received the ninth on April 22, 1986].
Janko: It is generally known that the Madonna, in the last secret she revealed to you, announced something terrible for man. Is this really so?
Vicka: If you say you know, what do you still want?
Janko: But can't you tell me anything more?
Vicka: Not really. That's all.
Janko: In the ninth and tenth secrets Mirjana told us that there is something even more serious.
Vicka: All right, we heard it. It is good that you reflect on this.
Janko: But don't you say anything more?
Vicka: What can I say? I know as much about these two secrets as you do.
Janko: You can at least tell me this: do you really know what will happen, based on every secret?
Vicka: I only know for the ones I received.
Janko: Do ​​you also know when they will come true?
Vicka: I don't know, until the Madonna will reveal it to me.
Janko: Mirjana says that she knows exactly what will happen and when.
Vicka: You know it because Our Lady revealed it to her, since it no longer appears to her.
Janko: You mean that you could not say and do not know, if any of the secrets in the world will be realized, before the manifestation of the Sign promised by Our Lady.
Vicka: I told you I don't know. What I don't know, I don't know.
Janko: Do ​​you think Jvanka and Maria know that?
Vicka: I'm not sure, but I think they know it.
Janko: Okay. Do you know if every secret will come true?
Vicka: Not necessarily. Therefore Our Lady said that we must pray and fast to mitigate the wrath of God.
Janko: You did well here. But do you know a secret that God mitigated because he prayed and fasted? Indeed, who has completely withdrawn?
Vicka: I don't know.
Janko: Yes, yes. According to Mirjana it happened with the seventh secret. Do you remember what it is?
Vicka: Wait a little. Yes, yes, I remember it too.
Janko: But for us, is having this withdrawn good?
Vicka: Yes. But someone would have done well to get their heads right.
Janko: Thanks, Vicka. I think I have too much juice. But tell me one more thing: tell me if it is difficult for you to keep these secrets.
Vicka: Not at all!
Janko: I struggle to believe it.
Vicka: What can I do about it?
Janko: Have you ever been tempted to reveal some secrets to someone, for example to your mom, sister, friend?
Vicka: No, never.
Janko: How come?
Vicka: I don't know. It should probably be asked of the Madonna. This is his doing.
Janko: Okay. Does little Jakov know everything about the secrets of Our Lady?
Vicka: Yes, he knows everything! Indeed, better than me.
Janko: And how do you manage to keep the secret?
Vicka: This too, better than me!
Janko: Vicka, I see that here you are too stingy with words and I see that the secrets, after all we have said, remain even more secrets. So I think it's better to finish.
Vicka: It's probably the best thing.
Janko: Okay and thank you very much.

Janko: Indeed, we have already spoken enough about the secrets of Our Lady, but I would pray you,
Vicka, to tell us something about your particular secret, that is, about your promised sign.
Vicka: As far as the Sign is concerned, I have already spoken to you enough. Sorry, but you also got fed up with this with your questions. What I said was never enough for you.
Janko: You're right; but what can I do if many are interested, and so am I, and want to know many things about this?
Vicka: It's okay. You ask me and I will answer what I know.
Janko: Or what you're allowed to do.
Vicka: This too. Come on, get started.
Janko: Okay; I start like this. Now it is clear, both from your declarations and from the recorded tapes, that from the beginning you have bothered Our Lady to leave a sign of her presence, so that the people will believe and do not doubt you.
Vicka: It's true.
Janko: And the Madonna?
Vicka: At first, whenever we asked her for this sign, she would either immediately disappear or begin to pray or sing.
Janko: Does that mean he didn't want to answer you?
Vicka: Yes, somehow.
Janko: So what?
Vicka: We have continued to bother you. And she pretty soon, nodding her head, began to promise that she would leave a mark.
Janko: Did you never promise with words?
Vicka: Of course not! Only not right away. Evidence was needed [that is, the visionaries were put to the test] and patience. You think that with the Madonna we can do what we want! Eh, my father ...
Janko: In your opinion, how long did it take for Our Lady to really promise to leave a mark?
Vicka: I don't know. I can't say I know if I don't know.
Janko: But roughly?
Vicka: In about a month. I do not know; it can be even more.
Janko: Yes, yes; even more. In your notebook it is written that on October 26, 1981, the Madonna, smiling, said that she was amazed because you no longer asked her about the sign; but he said that he will surely leave you and that you must not be afraid because she will fulfill her promise.
Vicka: Okay, but I think that was not the first time he made us the promise to really leave our mark.
Janko: I understand. Did he immediately tell you what it is?
Vicka: No, no. Maybe even two months have passed before telling us.
Janko: Did he talk to you all together?
Vicka: Everyone together, as far as I remember.
Janko: Then did you immediately feel lightened?
Vicka: Try to think: then they attacked us from all sides: newspapers, slanders, provocations of all kinds ... And we could not say anything.
Janko: I know; I remember this. But now tell me something about this Sign.
Vicka: I can tell you, but you already know everything you can know about it. Once you almost fooled me, but Our Lady did not allow it.
Janko: How did I trick you?
Vicka: Nothing, forget it. Go on.
Janko: Please tell me something about the Sign.
Vicka: I already told you that you know everything you can know.
Janko: Vicka, I see that I pissed you off. Where will Our Lady leave this sign?
Vicka: In Podbrdo, on the spot of the first apparitions.
Janko: Where will this sign be? In heaven or on earth?
Vicka: On earth.
Janko: Will it appear, will it arise all of a sudden or slowly?
Vicka: All of a sudden.
Janko: Can anyone see it?
Vicka: Yes, anyone will come here.
Janko: Will this Sign be temporary or permanent?
Vicka: Permanent.
Janko: You are a little bit of an answer, though ...
Vicka: Go ahead, if you still have something to ask.
Janko: Can anyone destroy this sign?
Vicka: Nobody can destroy it.
Janko: What do you think of this?
Vicka: Our Lady told us.
Janko: Do ​​you know exactly what this sign will be like?
Vicka: With precision.
Janko: Do ​​you also know when Our Lady will manifest it to us others?
Vicka: I know this too.
Janko: Do ​​all the other visionaries know this too?
Vicka: I don't know that, but I think we still don't all know.
Janko: Maria told me she doesn't know yet.
Vicka: Here, you see it!
Janko: What about little Jakov? He didn't want to answer this question.
Vicka: I think he knows it, but I'm not sure.
Janko: I haven't asked you yet if this Sign is a special secret or not.
Vicka: Yes, it's a special secret. But at the same time it is part of the ten secrets.
Janko: Are you sure?
Vicka: Of course I'm sure!
Janko: Okay. But why does Our Lady leave this sign here?
Vicka: To show the people that you are present here among us.
Janko: Okay. Tell me, if you believe: will I come to see this Sign?
Vicka: Go ahead. Once I told you, a long time ago. For now, that's enough.
Janko: Vicka, I would like to ask you one more thing, but you're too tough and brisk, so I'm afraid.
Vicka: If you're afraid, then leave it alone.
Janko: Just this again!
Vicka: I don't seem to be that bad. Please ask.
Janko: So that's fine. What do you think would happen to any of you if he revealed the secret of the Sign?
Vicka: I don't even think about it, because I know this can't happen.
Janko: But once the members of the episcopal commission asked you, e
precisely to you, who described this Sign in writing, how it will be and when it will happen, why
then the writing was closed and sealed in front of you, and kept until the Sign appears.
Vicka: This is correct.
Janko: But you haven't accepted. Because? This is not clear to me either.
Vicka: I can't help it. My father, whoever does not believe without this will not even believe.
then. But I also tell you this: woe to those who will wait for the Sign to convert! I seem to have told you once: that many will come, it may be that they will bow before the Sign, but in spite of everything they will not believe. Be happy not to be among them.
Janko: I really thank the Lord. Is that all you can tell me so far?
Vicka: Yes. That's enough for now.
Janko: Okay. Thank you.

Interview dated 1/6/1996

Father Slavko: From the beginning of the apparitions, the visionaries, for us normal believers, found themselves in a privileged position. You are aware of many secrets, you have seen Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. Vicka, how does it feel to live with the secrets revealed by the Mother of God?

Vicka: Up to now the Madonna has revealed to me nine secrets of the ten possible ones. It is absolutely not a burden for me, because when she revealed them to me, she also gave me the strength to bear them. I live as if I wasn't even aware of it.

Father Slavko: Do ​​you know when he will reveal the tenth secret to you?

Vicka: I don't know.

Father Slavko: Do ​​you think about secrets? Do you find it difficult to bring them? Do they oppress you?

Vicka: I certainly think about it, because the future is contained in these mysteries, but they do not oppress me.

Father Slavko: Do ​​you know when these secrets will be revealed to men?

Vicka: No, I don't know.