ʻO Ivan o Medjugorje: Ke haʻi aku nei au iā ʻoe i kaʻu mea i ʻike ai ma ka lani

Mimi: He aha ka mea nui aʻu, ma ke ʻano he kanaka, hiki ke hana e hoʻolaha i nā leka a kā mākou Lede?

Ivan: Ua kono aku kā mākou Lede i nā mea a pau o ka honua e lilo i mau lunaʻōlelo, hiki i kēlā me kēia manaʻoʻiʻo ke lilo i lunaʻōlelo no ka ʻeuanelio. E pule no ka euanelio, ʻoi aku ka euanelio o ka ʻohana, ka euanelio no ka Ekalesia i kēia lā a ma ka honua. ʻO kēia ka mea a ko mākou Lede e noi nei iā mākou a pau. E pule no keia manao.

Mimi: ʻO ke ala maikaʻi loa e haʻi aku ai ma o kā mākou pule, kā mākou hiʻohiʻona… a pehea?

ʻIvan: Ua paipai ko mākou Lede e hele i ka hoʻomana iā Iesu. Ke hoʻomaka ʻoe e hoʻomana, maʻalahi nā mea ʻē aʻe.

Mimi: Laki loa mākou i New Orleans i kahi wahi e nui ai nā hale pule hoʻomana a me nā manawa kūpono.

ʻIvan: ʻO ka pule ʻohana ke hele mua, a laila e maʻalahi ka hoʻomana. He mea nui e hoʻomaka i ka hoʻomana ʻohana.

Mimi: He aha kāu i ʻike ai ma ka lani?

ʻIvan: I ka makahiki 1984, haʻi mai ko mākou Lede iaʻu e hele au e ʻike i ka lani. Hele mai ʻo ia iaʻu e haʻi iaʻu e lawe ʻo ia iaʻu i ka lani. He Poaha ia. Ma ka Pōʻalima, kamaʻilio ko mākou Lede iaʻu no kekahi mau minuke. Kuʻu wau i luna, ala wau, a noho ko mākou Lede ma koʻu ʻaoʻao hema. Lawe kā mākou Lede i koʻu lima hema. Hele au i ʻekolu mau ʻanuʻu, a hāmama ka lani. Hele au i ʻekolu mau ʻanuʻu a ke kū nei au ma kahi puʻu liʻiliʻi. Ua like ka puu me ka Blue Cross o Medjugorje. Ma lalo au e ʻike ai i ka lani. ʻIke au i ka poʻe e hele ana me ka ʻakaʻaka, ua ʻaʻahu ʻia me nā ʻaʻahu ʻulaʻula lōʻihi, uliuli a me ke gula. Nīnau mai ka poʻe iaʻu i ke ʻano o nā kānaka. Ke mele nei lākou, he mele ma kahi mamao. He paʻakikī loa ka wehewehe ʻana. Nīnau mai ka poʻe iaʻu i ka makahiki e hōʻike ai lākou, 30-35 paha makahiki; pule lakou, mele, me na anela he nui loa. Ua lohe au i nā oli ma kahi mamao, mele nā ​​ʻānela, paʻakikī loa e wehewehe. Hoʻomaopopo ia i ka ʻEuanelio kahi i ʻōlelo ai: "ʻO nā mea a ka maka i ʻike ʻole ai, ʻaʻole i lohe ʻia e ka pepeiao ..." [1Cor 2,9 - ed] ʻO ia ke kumu i hele mai ai kā mākou Lede i kēia mau makahiki he 30, i alakaʻi no ka kakou, e malama ana i wahi no kakou a pau ma ka lani.

Mimi: Ua ʻike ʻia kā mākou Lede i nā manawa he nui a ma nā wahi he nui. Ua kamaʻilio ʻo ia iā ʻoe e pili ana i nā ʻike ʻē aʻe?

ʻO Ivan: ʻAʻole i haʻi mai ko mākou Lede iaʻu e pili ana i kekahi ʻike ʻē aʻe. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo no nā mea ʻike ʻē aʻe, ʻo Mirjana, Jakov, Ivanka, Vicka, a i ʻole Marija.

Mimi: Ua ʻike paha ʻoe inā loaʻa nā mea huna he 10 i kēlā me kēia ʻike, a i ʻole he nui nā mea huna?

ʻIvan: He nui ka poʻe e nīnau mai iaʻu i ka nīnau like. ʻAʻole hāʻawi ko kā mākou Lede i ʻeono mau mea ʻike 60 mau mea huna. Ua like kekahi mau mea huna. Ke noho au ma Medjugorje i ke kauwela, aia ka hapa nui o ka poʻe ʻike maka, kamaʻilio wau me kekahi o lākou ke hele mākou i ka kofe, ʻoi aku me Jacov a me Mirjana. Kūkākūkā mākou i nā mea huna like.