Jacov o Medjugorje e haʻi iā ʻoe pehea e aʻo ai e pule me kā mākou Lady

MANA LIVIO: ʻO Jakov inā ʻoe e ʻike i nā mea a kā mākou Lady e hāʻawi ai no ke alakaʻi ʻana iā mākou i ke ola mau. ʻAʻohe kānalua i ka wā ʻo ia, ʻoiai he makuahine, ua lōʻihi loa ia me kā mākou e kōkua ai, i kahi manawa paʻakikī no ke kanaka, ma ke ala e hiki aku ai i ka lani. He aha nā leka a kā mākou Moku i hāʻawi aku ai iā ʻoe?

JAKOV: ʻO ia nā leka nui.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻO wai kēlā?

JAKOV: He pule lākou, hoʻokē ʻai, huli ʻana, maluhia a me Mass Mass.

FATHER LIVIO: He ʻumi mau mea e pili ana i ka uka o ka pule.

JAKOV: E like me kā mākou e ʻike nei, ʻae maila kā mākou Mokuahine iā mākou i kēlā me kēia lā e haʻi i ʻekolu ʻāpana o ka rosary. A ke kono nei ʻo ia iā mākou e pule i ka rosary, a i ʻole ma ka manawa ke kono mai ʻo ia iā mākou e pule, makemake ʻo ia iā mākou e hana mai ka naʻau.
MANA LIVIO: He aha kāu e manaʻo ai e pule me ko mākou puʻuwai?

JAKOV: He nīnau paʻakikī wau noʻu, no ka mea manaʻo wau ʻaʻole hiki i kekahi ke wehewehe i ka pule me ka puʻuwai, akā hoʻāʻo wale.

FATHER LIVIO: he mea ia e ʻike ai i kekahi e hoʻāʻo e hana.

JAKOV: Manaʻo wau inā ʻike mākou i ka pono o ko mākou puʻuwai, ke manaʻo nei mākou pono ka naʻau o ka pule, ke ʻike nei mākou i ka hauʻoli i ka pule ʻana, aia ka ʻoluʻolu i ka pule, a laila pule mākou me ka naʻau. Akā naʻe, ʻaʻole kākou e pule e like me ka mea he kuleana, no ka mea ʻaʻole kā mākou Kamaliʻi e koi i kekahi. ʻO ke kiʻi, i kona puka ʻana i Medjugorje a noi ʻo ia e hahai i nā ʻelele, ʻaʻole ia i ʻōlelo: "Pono ʻoe e lawe iā lākou", akā kono mau ʻia ia.

FATHER LIVIO: Uaʻike paha ʻoe i kahi liʻiliʻi iā Jacov ka Madonna pule?

JAKOV: Pono.

FATHER LIVIO: Pehea kāu pule?

JAKOV: E pule pule ʻoe iā Iesū no ...

MANA LIVIO: Akā ʻaʻole anei ʻoe i ʻike i kāna pule?

JAKOV: E pule mau ʻoe me kā mākou Makua a hoʻonani ʻia i ka Makua.

MANA LIVIO: Manaʻo wau e pule ʻoe ma ke ʻano he kikoʻī.

JAKOV: ʻAe.

FATHER LIVIO: Inā hiki, e hoʻāʻo e wehewehe pehea e pule ai ia. ʻIke ʻoe i ke kumu o koʻu nīnau ʻana iā ʻoe i kēia nīnau? No ka mea ua ʻoluʻolu nui ʻia ʻo Bernadette e ke ʻano o kā mākou Wahine i ka hōʻailona o ke keʻa hemolele, i kēlā manawa i ʻōlelo ai lākou iā ia: "E hōʻike mai ʻoe iā mākou e hana nei i kā mākou Mōʻī i ka hōʻailona o ke keʻa", hōʻole ʻo ia e ʻōlelo: "ʻAʻole hiki ke hana i ka hōʻailona o ke keʻa laʻa e like me ka hana ʻana a ka wahine hemolele ia ". ʻO ia ke kumu ou ke noi aku nei iā ʻoe e hoʻāʻo, inā hiki, e haʻi iā mākou pehea e pule ai ka Madonna.

JAKOV: ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou, no ka mea, ʻaʻole hiki mua ke koho ʻana i ka leo o ka Madonna, he leo maikaʻi kēia. Eia kekahi, nani nō hoʻi ke ʻano o ka haʻi ʻana o ko mākou Lady i nā huaʻōlelo.

FATHER LIVIO: Ke manaʻo nei anei ʻoe e ʻōlelo i nā ʻōlelo a ko mākou Makua a me ka nani o ka Makua?

JAKOV: ʻAe, hoʻolaha ia iā lākou me kahi mea maikaʻi ʻole āu e hiki ʻole ke wehewehe, ma kahi ʻano ʻē inā hoʻolohe ʻoe iā ia, makemake ʻoe a hoʻāʻo e pule e like me kā kā mākou Lady.

MANA LIVIO: Kumukahi!

JAKOV: A ʻōlelo ʻia: "ʻO ia ka pule me ka puʻuwai! ʻO wai ka mea ʻike i ka wā e hiki aku ai au e pule e like me kā kā mākou Mōʻī ".

FATHER LIVIO: E pule anei kā mākou Mokuahine me ka puʻuwai?

JAKOV: Pono.

FATHER LIVIO: Pēlā nō ʻoe, e ʻike ana e pule ana ka Madonna, ua aʻo ʻoe e pule?

JAKOV: Ua aʻo wau e pule liʻiliʻi, akā ʻaʻole wau e pule e like me kā mākou Lady.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo. ʻO kā mākou Lede, ka pule i hana i ʻiʻo.

FATHER LIVIO: Ma waho aʻe o ko mākou Makua a me ka nani i ka Makua, he aha nā pule ʻē aʻe i ʻōlelo ai ko mākou Mokuahine? Ua lohe wau, ʻaʻole paha mai Vicka iaʻu, ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu, ma kekahi mau manawa ua heluhelu ʻo ia i ka Creed.

JAKOV: ʻAʻole, kā mākou Wahine me aʻu no.

FATHER LIVIO: Me ʻoe, ʻaʻole? ʻAe ʻole?

JAKOV: ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole. Ua nīnau kekahi o mākou e ʻike maka i kā mākou Lady ma kāna pule punahele a ua pane ʻo ia: "ʻO The Creed".

FATHER LIVIO: Na Kupa?

JAKOV: ʻAe, ka Creed.

MANA LIVIO: ʻAke ʻole ʻoe i ʻike i kā mākou Wahine i hana i ka hōʻailona o ke keʻa hemolele?

JAKOV: ʻAʻole, like me aʻu ʻaʻole.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻAno nō ka hoʻohālike āna i hāʻawi mai ai iā mākou ma Lourdes e lawa. A laila, ma waho o kā mākou Makua a me ka nani o ka Makua, ʻaʻole ʻoe i ʻōlelo i kekahi mau pule e me ko mākou Lāahine. Akā, e hoʻolohe mai, ʻaʻole anei i haʻi mua ka Mokuahine iā Ave Maria?

JAKOV: ʻAe, i ka hoʻomaka ʻana i kuhi hewa kēia a nīnau mākou iā mākou iho: "Akā ke kumu e ʻōlelo ʻole ai ka Ave Maria?". I hoʻokahi manawa, i ka ʻike, ma hope o ka heluhelu ʻana i ko mākou Makua me kā mākou Lede, hoʻomau wau me ka Hail Mary, akā i ka manawa i ʻike ai au ʻo kā mākou Mōʻī, ma, e hoʻohuli hoʻi i ka nani i ka Makua, kū wau a hoʻomau wau me ia.

MANA LIVIO: E hoʻolohe, e Jakov, he aha hou aʻe e ʻōlelo ai e pili ana i ka cateches maikaʻi loa a ko mākou Moku i hāʻawi ʻia i ka pule? He aha nā haʻawina āu i aʻo ai mai loko mai o kou ola?

JAKOV: Manaʻo wau he mea nui ka pule no mākou. E lilo ʻoe i mea ʻai no ko mākou ola. Ua haʻi pū nō wau ma mua o nā nīnau a pau a mākou e nīnau ai iā mākou iho e pili ana i ke ʻano o ke ola: Manaʻo wau ʻaʻohe mea i loko o ke ao nei ʻaʻole i nīnau mua i nā nīnau e pili ana iā ia iho. Hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa i nā pane i ka pule. ʻO kēlā ʻoliʻoli a mākou e ʻimi nei ma kēia ao, e hiki wale nō i ka pule.

FATHER LIVIO: Heʻoiaʻiʻo!

JAKOV: Hiki i kā mākou ʻohana ke loaʻa i ke olakino maikaʻi me ka pule ʻana. Ke ola nui nei kā mākou keiki ma o ka pule wale nō.
FATHER LIVIO: Ehia makahiki o kāu mau keiki?

JAKOV: ʻEkolu ʻelima mau keiki a kamakūmiki, ʻekahi ʻekolu a ʻelua mau makahiki a me ka hapa.

MANA LIVIO: Ua aʻo mua ʻoe i ʻelima mau makahiki e pule?

JAKOV: ʻAe, hiki iā Ariadne ke pule.

FATHER LIVIO: He aha nā pule āu i aʻo ai?

JAKOV: No kēia mea ko mākou Makua, ʻo Hail Mary a me ka nani i ka Makua.

FATHER LIVIO: Ke pule pū paha ʻoe a i ʻole me ʻoe ma ka ʻohana?

JAKOV: E pule me mākou, ʻae.

FATHER LIVIO: He aha nā pule āu e ʻōlelo ai i loko o ka ʻohana?

JAKOV: E pule kāua i ka māka.

FATHER LIVIO: I kēlā me kēia lā?

JAKOV: e a me ka "Pater ʻehiku, Ave a me Gloria", i ka wā i hele ai nā keiki i kahi moe, e hui pū mākou me ko lākou makuahine.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻAʻole noʻonoʻo nā keiki i kekahi mau pule?

JAKOV: ʻAe, i kekahi manawa hoʻokuʻu mākou iā lākou e pule pule wale. E ʻike i kā lākou makemake e ʻōlelo ai iā Iesū a i ʻole Kau Māʻama.

MANA LIVIO: ʻōlelo anei lākou i nā pule pule?

JAKOV: Spontan, i lawoʻa ʻia e lākou.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻOiaʻiʻo. ʻOiai ke keiki liʻiliʻi o ka makahiki ʻekolu?

JAKOV: Ua huhū nui ka makahiki ʻekolu makahiki.

MANA LIVIO: ʻAe ʻae? Loaʻa iā ʻoe nā quirks?

JAKOV: ʻAe, ke ʻōlelo nei mākou iā ia: "ʻO kā mākou manawa ke pule iki"

LOTE LIVIO: No laila ke koi nei ʻoe?

JAKOV: Manaʻo wau i ka mea nui e pono e loaʻa i nā keiki i mea hoʻohālike i ka ʻohana.

LOTE LIVIO: ka hana hou ka hana e like me nā huaʻōlelo.

JAKOV: ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke hoʻoikaika iā lākou, no ka mea, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻōlelo i nā keiki he kanakolu, "Noho ʻoe ma ʻehā mau minuke," no ka mea ʻaʻole ʻo ia e ʻae. Akā manaʻo wau e ʻike nā keiki i ka hiʻohiʻona o ka pule ma ka ʻohana. E ʻike lākou e noho ke Akua ma loko o ko mākou ʻohana a manaʻo mākou i kā mākou manawa iā ia.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻOiaʻiʻo hoʻi a ma nā mea āpau e pono ai nā mākua, ma ka hoʻohālike ʻana a me ke aʻo ʻana, e hoʻomaka me nā keiki mai ke wā ʻōpio.

JAKOV: Akā. No ka mea ʻōpio lākou, pono e hōʻike ʻia i ke Akua, e ʻike i ko kākou Lahine a ʻōlelo iā lākou i kā mākou Lāhine ma ko lākou makuahine, e like me kā mākou ʻōlelo ma mua. Pono mākou e hoʻolilo i ke keiki i ka "Madonnina" ʻo ia kona makuahine ma ka Paradise ʻo ia makemake a kōkua iā ia. Akā e ʻike nā keiki i kēia mau mea mai ka hoʻomaka.

JAKOV: Maʻa wau ua ʻike i nā pōkole he nui i hele mai i Medjugorje. A hala he iwakāluakūmākolu mau makahiki e nīnau lākou iā lākou iho: "No ke aha lā ʻaʻole e pule ai kaʻu mau keiki?". Akā inā nīnau ʻoe iā lākou: "Ua pule anei ʻoe i kekahi manawa i loko o ka ʻohana?", Pae kā lākou. No laila pehea lā e hiki ai i kahi keiki he iwakāluakolu paha o kona mau makahiki ke pule aku i kona wā ʻaʻole i noho ʻo ia ka pule i loko o ka ʻohana a ʻaʻole lohe ʻo ia i ke Akua e noho nei i loko o ka ʻohana?

FATHER LIVIO: Hōʻike maopopo ʻia nā leka i ka hopohopo nui o kā mākou Lady no ka pule ʻohana. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i kona ʻano koi i kēia manawa.

JAKOV: ʻOiaʻiʻo, no ka mea, ke manaʻo nei wau e hiki i nā pilikia āpau a mākou i loko o ka ʻohana ke hiki ke hoʻopau ʻia me ka pule. ʻO ka pule ka mea e hoʻokūkū ai i ka ʻohana, e pale aku i kēlā mau kaʻawale i ka wā kaʻina ma hope o ka male ʻana i kēia lā.

FATHER LIVIO: He pōʻino, he mea kaumaha loa ia

JAKOV: No ke aha? No ka mea ʻaʻohe ʻAʻohe Akua, no ka mea, ʻaʻohe a mākou kumu waiwai ma nā ʻohana. Inā mākou he Akua,

Aia nā manaʻo i nā ʻohana. ʻO kekahi pilikia, i manaʻo mākou he koʻikoʻi, e hoʻēmi ʻia inā hiki iā mākou ke hoʻoponopono iā lākou pū, e waiho ana iā mākou iho ma mua o ke keʻa a noi i ke Akua no ka lokomaikaʻi. Hoʻoholo lākou iā lākou iho ma ka pule pū ʻana.

MANA LIVIO: ʻIke wau ua ʻike maikaʻi ʻoe i ka kono a kā mākou Lady no ka pule ʻohana.

FATHER LIVIO: E hoʻolohe, pehea ka alakaʻi ʻana o kā mākou Lady iā ʻoe e ʻike iā Iesū, ʻo ka ʻEokarist a me ka Mea Hemolele?

JAKOV: Ma ke ala wau i ʻōlelo ai, like me ka makuahine. No ka mea, inā iā mākou kēlā makana a ke Akua e ʻike i ko mākou Aliʻi, pono nō hoʻi mākou i ka mea a kā mākou Mōʻī i ʻōlelo e haʻi mai ai. ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo he maʻalahi nā mea āpau mai ka hoʻomaka. Aia i kou mau makahiki he ʻumi, a ʻōlelo aku ka Our Lady iā ʻoe e pule i nā rosary ʻekolu, manaʻo ʻoe: "E ka mama, pehea lā wau e pule ai i nā rosaries ʻekolu?". A i ʻole iā ia e ʻōlelo aku iā ʻoe e hele i Mass a me nā lā mua mākou i loko o ka hale pule no ʻeono a ʻehiku mau hola. E hele ana i ka hale pule ʻike wau i koʻu mau hoaaloha e pāʻani pāʻani ana i ka pā ma ke kula a ʻōlelo aku wau iā ʻoe iho: "No ke aha hiki ʻole iaʻu ke pāʻani?". Akā i kēia manawa, ke noʻonoʻo nei au i kēlā mau manawa a noʻonoʻo i nā mea a pau aʻu i loaʻa ai, ke kala nei au i ka noʻonoʻo ʻana iā ia, ʻoiai inā hoʻokahi wale nō.

MANA LIVIO: Hoʻomaopopo wau i koʻu hele ʻana mai i Medjugorje i ka makahiki 1985, ma ke ʻano he ʻehā aʻe ʻoe i laila i loko o ka hale o Marija e kali iā ia a hele i ka hale pule no nā rosaries, nā ka lole a me ka Mass Mass. Ua hoʻi mākou i ka ahiahi i ka ʻeiwa. Ma ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa, ua hoʻolaʻa ʻia kāu kakahiaka i ke kula a me ke ahiahi no ka haʻahaʻa home a me ka pule, ʻaʻole ia e haʻi i nā hālāwai me nā poʻe haipule. ʻAʻole pōʻino ia no kahi keiki kāne ʻumi makahiki.

JAKOV: Akā, ʻike ʻoe i ke aloha o ko mākou Wahine, ke hoʻomaopopo ʻoe i ke aloha nui o Iesū iā ʻoe a me ka nui āna i hana ai no ʻoe, a laila e pane pū ʻoe me ka naʻau puʻuwai.

JAKOV: ʻOiaʻiʻo, no kā mākou mau hewa.

FATHER LIVIO: Noʻu a me olua.

JAKOV: Noʻu a me kēlā mau mea ʻē aʻe.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻOiaʻiʻo. E hoʻolohe, ʻo Marija lāua ʻo Vicka i ʻōlelo ma nā manawa he nui a ko mākou Lady i hōʻike aku iā Iesū ma ka Pōʻalima Pōʻalima. Ua ʻike paha ʻoe iā?

JAKOV: ʻAe: ʻo ia kekahi o nā hiʻohiʻona mua.

FATHER LIVIO: Pehea ʻoe i ʻike ai?

JAKOV: Ua ʻike mākou ʻeha iā Iesu. ʻike mākou he hapalua-lōʻihi. Ua mahalo loa au ... ʻIke ʻoe i ka wā e haʻi aku ai nā mākua iā Iesū ma ke kea, ua ʻeha ʻo Iesū a ua ʻike pū ʻia nō hoʻi mākou, e like me ka poʻe keiki i ʻōlelo ʻia, ua hōʻeha ʻo ia iā mākou inā ʻaʻole maikaʻi a ʻaʻole mākou i hoʻolohe i nā mākua? Aia, i kou ʻike ʻana ua ʻeha maoli ʻo Iesū e like me kēia, a laila ʻoluʻolu ʻoe i nā hana hewa liʻiliʻi āu i hana ai i kou ola, a no ka poʻe ʻuʻuku paha paha ka mea i hewa ʻole ai ʻoe a hana ʻoe iā lākou me ka hewa ʻole ... akā ma ia manawa ma laila. aloha ʻoe i nā mea āpau.

MANA LIVIO: Kūpono paha iaʻu e haʻi aku i kēlā manawa e kā mākou Mōʻī iā ʻoe e hōʻeha ʻo Iesu no ko mākou mau hewa?

MANA LIVIO: ʻAʻole mākou e poina.

JAKOV: Akā ʻo ka mea e hoʻokaumaha nui ai ʻoe, ʻo ka make naʻe ke ʻeha ʻia e ka poʻe a Iesū me ko lākou hewa.

FATHER LIVIO: Mai ka mea huna o ka Puhi hele mākou i kēlā mea i Kalikimaka. Heʻoiaʻiʻo anei ʻoe i ʻike i ke keiki o Iesū, i hānau hānau ʻia?

JAKOV: ʻAe, kēlā me kēia Kalikimaka.

MANA LIVIO: Ma ka lā Kalikimaka i ka manawa hope, i ka manawa i ʻike ai ʻoe i ka Madonna no ka manawa mua, ma hope o kēlā Kepakemapa XNUMX ma ka mea i hāʻawi aku ai iā ʻoe i ka ʻumiʻumi, ua ʻike hou ʻia ʻoe iā Madonna me ke Keiki?

JAKOV: ʻAʻole, hele wale mai ʻo ia.

FATHER LIVIO: Ua hele hoʻokahi ʻo ia, me ke keiki ʻole o ke Keiki?

JAKOV: ʻAe.

MANA LIVIO: I ka manawa hea i hele mai ai ʻoe i kēlā me kēia Kalikimaka me ke Keiki ʻO Iesū i ka wā i loaʻa ai ia ʻoe i nā lā maʻamau?

JAKOV: ʻAe, ua hele pū ʻo ia me ke Keiki ʻo Iesū.

MANA LIVIO: A he aha ke ʻano o ke Keiki Iesu?

JAKOV: ʻAʻole loa i ʻike nui ke keiki ʻo Iesū no ka uhi mau ʻana o kā mākou Mōʻī iā ia i kona pale.

MAKAHIKI LIVIO: Me kona pale?

JAKOV: ʻAe.

MANA LIVIO: No laila, ʻaʻole anei ʻoe i ʻike maikaʻi?

JAKOV: Akā ʻo ka mea e hoʻohālikelike maoli ai, ʻo ia ke aloha o ko mākou Aliʻi i kēia Keiki.

FATHER LIVIO: Ua pakū anei ka aloha aloha o Maria iā Iesu?

JAKOV: E ʻike ana i ke aloha o kā mākou Wahine i kēia Keiki, koke koke ʻoe i ke aloha o kā mākou Lady iā ʻoe.
MANA LIVIO: ʻO ia, mai ke aloha a kā mākou Mōʻī i ka Mōʻī iā Iesū āu e manaʻo ai ...

JAKOV: A pehea lā ʻo ia e mālama ai i kēia Keiki ...

FATHER LIVIO: Pehea ʻoe e mālama ai?

JAKOV: I ke ala aʻike koke ʻoe i kona aloha iā ʻoe pū kekahi.

MANA LIVIO: mahalo nui iaʻu a mahalo i nā mea āu i ʻōlelo mai ai. Akā e hoʻi hou i kēia kumumanaʻo o ka pule.

ʻO ka Mass Mass

MANA LIVIO: No ke aha ʻoe e mālama nui ai kā mākou Mōʻī i ka Mass Mass?

JAKOV: Manaʻo wau i ka manawa o ka Mass Mass he loaʻa iā mākou nā mea āpau, ke loaʻa iā mākou nā mea a pau, no ka mea ʻo Iesū i noho ai. ʻO kēia ke kumu a kā mākou Manoa e kono aku iā mākou e hele i Holy Mass a hāʻawi iā ia i ka mea nui nui.
L MANA LIVIO: ka kono kono o ko mākou Lady wale no ka lā hauʻoli a i ʻole no ka Lā i kēlā me kēia lā?

JAKOV: ʻOiai ma ka lā pule, inā hiki. Yup.

FATHER LIVIO: Ke kono ʻia nei kekahi mau leka a ka Madonna e haʻi i ka haʻi ʻana ʻana. ʻAʻole anei i kamaʻilio ko mākou Mokuahine iā ʻoe no ka haʻi ʻana?

JAKOV: ʻ said ko mākou Lāahine e haʻi pono iā mākou e hōʻoia ma ka liʻiliʻi ma hoʻokahi mahina. ʻAʻohe kanaka ma kēia honua ʻaʻole pono e haʻi, no ka mea, ke ʻōlelo nei wau i koʻuʻike, i ka wā e haʻi ʻoe ua maʻemaʻe maoli ʻoe i kou puʻuwai, manaʻo ʻoe e ʻoluʻolu. No ka mea, iā ʻoe e hele ana i ke kahuna a me ka nonoi ʻana i ka Haku, iā Iesu, no nā hewa liʻiliʻi loa, hoʻohiki a hoʻāʻo e hoʻi hou iā lākou, a laila, loaʻa iā ʻoe ka kala a ʻike ʻoe i ka maʻemaʻe a maʻemaʻe.

FATHER LIVIO: He nui e pale i ka haʻi ʻana i kēia ʻōlelo: "No ke aha wau e hōʻoia ai i ke kahuna i ka wā e hiki ai iaʻu ke haʻi pololei i koʻu mau hewa i ke Akua?"

JAKOV: Manaʻo wau e pili ana kēia ʻano me ka manaʻo ʻole, he nui ka poʻe i kēia lā ua nalowale i ka mahalo i nā kāhuna. ʻAʻole lākou i ʻike ʻaʻole ma ka honua i hōʻike mai nei ke kahuna iā Iesū.

JAKOV: He nui ka poʻe e ʻāhewa ana i nā kāhuna, akā ʻaʻole maopopo, ʻo ke kahuna e like pū me mākou a pau. Kamuā mākou iā ia ma mua o ka hele ʻana e kamaʻilio me ia a kōkua iā ia me kā mākou pule. Ua ʻōlelo pinepine ʻia kā mākou Lede

e pule kakou i na kahuna, e loaa no i na kahuna pule, no laila, pono mākou e pule no lākou, ma kahi o ka hoʻohewa ʻana iā lākou. Lohe au i nā manawa pinepine o ka poʻe malihini e hoʻopiʻi nei i ka ʻōlelo ʻana aʻe: "ʻAʻole makemake kaʻu kahuna pākeke ke makemake i kēia, ʻaʻole makemake koʻu kahuna pākela i kēlā .. .11 ʻAʻole koʻu makemake koʻu kahuna pule e pule ...". Akā e hele ʻoe e kamaʻilio me ia, e nīnau iā ia no ke aha kēia mea e pule ai, pule no kāu kahuna pākana a mai hōʻole ʻoe iā ia.

JAKOV: Pono kā mākou kahuna e kōkua iā mākou.

FATHER LIVIO: No laila ua ʻōlelo pinepine ka Mokuahine e pule i nā kahuna?

JAKOV: ʻAe mau manawa pinepine. ʻOiai ma o Ivan, ua kono mai ko mākou Mokuahine e pule no nā kāhuna.

MANA LIVIO: Ua lohe pono anei ʻoe i kā mākou Mokuahine e kono aku iā ʻoe e pule no ka Pope?

JAKOV: ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole i haʻi iki iaʻu, akā i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe i hana ai.

FATHER LIVIO: Ma hope o ka pule he aha ka leka nui loa?

JAKOV: Ke noi mai nei kā mākou Mōʻī iā mākou no ka hookeai.

FATHER LIVIO: He aha ke ʻano wikiwiki o kāu nīnau?

JAKOV: Ke noi mai nei kā mākou Mokuahine e ʻai wikiwiki i ka berena a me ka wai ma ka Pōʻakolu a me ka Pōʻalima. Akā, i ka manawa e noi mai ai kā mākou Lady iā mākou no ka hoʻokē ʻai, makemake ʻo ia e hana maoli me ke aloha ʻole i ke Akua. Pono kākou e wikiwiki i ka naʻau a hāʻawi i kā mākou mōhai.

Nui nā maʻi e hiki ʻole ke wikiwiki, akā hiki iā lākou ke hāʻawi i kahi mea, kahi mea e hoʻopili ʻia ai. Akā pono e hana maoli me ke aloha.

Aia nō kekahi hewa i ka wā e hoʻokē ʻai ai, akā inā mākou e nānā i ka mea a Iesū i hana ai no kākou, he aha kāna i hoʻomanawanui ai no kākou a pau, inā e nānā kākou i kona mau haʻahaʻa ʻana, he aha hoʻi kā mākou wikiwiki? He mea liʻiliʻi wale nō.

Ke manaʻo nei au e pono e hoʻāʻo e hoʻomaopopo i ka mea hoʻokahi, ʻaʻole naʻe, ʻaʻole maopopo ka nui: i ka wā e hoʻokē ʻai ai mākou a i ka wā e pule ai mākou, no ka mea pono o wai mākou e hana ai?

Ke noʻonoʻo nei iā ia, ke hana nei mākou iā mākou iho, no ko mākou wā e hiki mai ana, ʻoiai no ko mākou olakino. ʻAʻohe kānalua kēia mau mea a pau i ko mākou pono a no ka ola.

ʻLelo pinepine wau i kēia i nā mākaʻikaʻi: Mākaʻikaʻi maikaʻi kā mākou Lady ma ka lani ʻaʻole pono e iho i lalo i ka honua. Akā makemake ʻo ia e hoʻopakele iā mākou a pau, no ka mea, he nui kāna aloha iā mākou.

Pono kākou e kōkua i kā mākou Wahine e hiki ai iā mākou ke hoʻopakele iā mākou iho.

'O ia ke kumu e pono ai mākou e hōʻike i kāna mea i kono ai iā ia.

FATHER LIVIO: Aia kekahi mea i kāu e ʻōlelo nei e hoʻopilikia nui iaʻu. I nā huaʻōlelo ʻē aʻe, ʻo ia nō ka moʻolelo āu i hoʻomaopopo ai ʻo ka hiki ʻana o ko mākou Lady no ka lōʻihi loa ma waena o mākou he mea nui loa ke ola mau loa o nā ʻuhane. Hoʻolālā ʻia ke kumu holoʻokoʻa o ke kūpaʻa i kēia pahuhopu hope loa. ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻoi aku ka mea nui ma mua o ke ola o ko mākou ʻuhane. Ma aneʻi, ua ʻeha iaʻu a me ka mea e hoʻomaikaʻi ai iaʻu i ka ʻike ʻana o kahi keiki 28 makahiki, ua ʻike ʻo ia, ʻoiai he nui nā Karistiano, a me kekahi poʻe kāhuna, ʻaʻole paha i hoʻomaopopo pono e like me lākou e pono ai.

JAKOV: Pono. Ua maopopo iaʻu no ka mea, e hele pololei mai kā mākou Wahine no kēia kumu, e hoʻōla iā mākou, e hoʻopakele iā mākou, e hoʻōla iā mākou. A laila, i ka ʻike ʻana i ke Akua a me kona aloha, a laila hiki pū iā mākou ke kōkua i ko mākou Lady e hoʻōla i nā ʻuhane he nui.

MANA LIVIO: ʻOiaʻiʻo, pono mākou e lilo i mea hana ma kona lima no ke ola mau loa o nā ʻuhane o ko kākou mau hoahānau.

JAKOV: ʻAe, ʻo kāna mea hana, ʻoiaʻiʻo.

MANA LIVIO: No laila ke ʻōlelo ʻana o kā mākou Wahine: "Pono wau iā ʻoe", ʻōlelo anei ʻo ia ma kēia ʻano?

JAKOV: ʻōlelo ia i kēia ʻano. Akā, pono kākou e hoʻomaopopo i, i lilo i kumu i kekahi, e kōkua i ka hoʻopakele i nā ʻuhane ʻē aʻe, pono nō mākou i ka poʻe i ola, ʻo ia ka mea mua i pono i ka poʻe i ʻae i nā ʻōlelo a kā mākou Lady. A laila, pono mākou e ola iā lākou i ko mākou mau ʻohana a ho'āʻo e hoʻohuli i kā mākou ʻohana, nā keiki a kāua a me kēlā me kēia mea, ka honua holoʻokoʻa.

ʻO ka mea nui loa ʻaʻole ia i ka hoʻokuke i kekahi, no ka mea, ʻaʻole make ka poʻe nui no ke Akua, akā ʻaʻole ke mau kaua a ke Akua

MANA LIVIO: ʻOiaʻiʻo, pono mākou e hāʻawi i kā mākou hōʻike ma kahi hauʻoli.

JAKOV: ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻoiai i nā manawa paʻakikī.

MANA LIVIO: Ma hope o nā leka i ka pule a me ka hoʻokē ʻai, he aha ka nīnau a kā mākou Lady?

JAKOV: ʻōlelo a kā mākou Lāahine e hoʻohuli iā mākou.

MANA LIVIO: He aha kou manaʻo e hoʻololi ai?

JAKOV: He paʻakikī ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka huli ʻana. Ke ʻike nei ka huli ʻana i ka mea hou, e ʻoluʻolu ana i ko mākou puʻuwai e hoʻopiha nei i kahi mea hou aʻe hou aʻe, aia hoʻi i loaʻa iaʻu i ka manawa i hālāwai ai au me Iesū. Ua ʻike wau iā ia i loko o koʻu puʻuwai a ua hoʻololi koʻu ola. Ua ʻike wau i kekahi mea hou aku, ʻo ka mea maikaʻi, ua ʻike wau i ke aloha hou, ua ʻike wau i kahi hauʻoli hou aʻu i ʻike ʻole ma mua. ʻO kēia kēia hoʻololi i koʻu ʻike.

MANA LIVIO: No laila ʻo mākou kekahi i manaʻoʻiʻo e pono ke hoʻohuli?

JAKOV: ʻOiaʻiʻo hoʻi, pono mākou e hoʻohuli, e wehe i ko mākou mau naʻau a e hoʻokipa a hoʻokipa iā Iesū: ʻo ka mea nui loa no kēlā me kēia kipa aku he hoʻololi maoli nō, ka loli o ke ola ʻana o kekahi. Eia nō ka mea nui, ke hele mai lākou i Medjugorje, e ʻimi i nā mea e kūʻai aku ai e lawe iā lākou i ka home. Ke kūʻai aku nei lākou i nā rosaries a i ʻole madonnas keʻokeʻo, (e like me ka mea i uwē i Civitavecchia).

Akā ke ʻōlelo mau nei au i ka poʻe pōmaikaʻi ʻo ka mea nui loa e lawe i ka home mai Medjugorje, nā ʻōlelo a kā mākou Lady. ʻO kēia ka makana ʻoi loa a lākou e lawe ai. He mea ole ia e lawe i nā rosaries home, madonnas a me nā kea, inā ʻaʻole mākou e pule i ka Rosary laʻa a i ʻole kūlou i ka pule ma mua o ke Kēia. ʻO kēia ka mea nui loa: e lawe mai i nā leka o kā mākou Lady. ʻO kēia ka momona a nui a nani loa mai Medjugorje.

FATHER LIVIO: Mai iā ʻoe i aʻo ai e pule i mua o ke kea?

JAKOV: Ua noi pinepine ko mākou Mokuahine iā mākou i nā manawa he nui i ka pule ma mua o ke kea. ʻAe, manaʻo wau he pono mākou i ka mea a mākou i hana ai, nā mea a mākou e hana nei, pehea mākou e hōʻeha ai iā Iesū.

FATHER LIVIO: ʻO ka hua o ka huli ʻana he maluhia.

JAKOV: Ae, maluhia. ʻO ko kā mākou Lede, e like me kā mākou i ʻike ai, hōʻike iā ia iho i ka mōʻī o ka maluhia. Aia ma ke kolu o ka lā, e ala iā Marija, ʻo ka Madonna ma ke kuahiwi i ʻōlelo hou "Aloha" ʻekolu a ua kono mai iā mākou, ʻaʻole wau i ʻike i ka manawa o kāna mau leka, e pule ai no ka maluhia.

FATHER LIVIO: He aha ka maluhia e ko kā mākou Lady e kamaʻilio e pili ana?

JAKOV: I ka manawa e kono ai kā mākou Mōʻī iā mākou e pule no ka maluhia, ʻo ka mea mua, pono ka maluhia i loko o ko mākou mau naʻau, no ka mea, inā ʻaʻole o maua ka maluhia i loko o kā mākou, ʻaʻole hiki iā mākou ke pule no ka maluhia.

FATHER LIVIO: Pehea lā ʻoe e maluhia ai i loko o kou puʻuwai?

JAKOV: Ke loaʻa iā Iesū a noi aku e hoʻomaikaʻi iā Iesū, e like me kā mākou i ʻōlelo ai ma mua e kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā pule a nā keiki, i ka manawa e kū ai ke keiki hala ʻole, kēlā me kēia me kā lākou huaʻōlelo. ʻ earlierlelo mua aku nei au ʻo ka pule, ʻaʻole ia wale nō ka "Makua", "Hail Mary" a me ka "Hanohano i ka Makua". Ke pule nei kā mākou pule me ke Akua.Ua noi i ke Akua i ka maluhia i loko o kā mākou naʻau, ke noi nei iā ia e manaʻo iā ia i loko o ko mākou puʻuwai, no ka mea ʻo Iesū wale nō ka mea e hoʻomālamalama iā mākou. Ma o ia wale lā ke ʻike ai kākou i ka maluhia i loko o kā mākou naʻau.

FATHER LIVIO: No laila, inā hoʻi ʻole ʻo Jakov, e hoʻi i ke Akua, ʻaʻole hiki iā ia ke loaʻa ke maluhia. Inā ʻole ka holi, ʻaʻohe ʻōmaikaʻi maoli, nā mea na ke Akua ia e ʻoliʻoli nui.

JAKOV: Pono. Ilaio. Inā makemake mākou e pule no ka maluhia o ka honua, pono e loaʻa mua iā mākou ka maluhia i loko o mākou iho a laila maluhia i loko o nā ʻohana a laila e pule i ka maluhia i kēia ao. Ke kamaʻilio nei mākou e pili ana i ka maluhia i ka honua, ʻike mākou i ka mea e pono ai ka maluhia o kēia ao, me nā mea a pau e hana i kēlā me kēia lā. Akā, e like me kā kā mākou Lady i ʻōlelo pinepine ʻia i nā manawa he nui, hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa nā mea āpau me kāu pule a me ka hoʻokē ʻai. Hiki iā ʻoe ke pani i nā kaua. ʻO kēia wale nō ka mea hiki iā mākou ke hana.

FATHER LIVIO: E hoʻolohe iā Jakov, no ke aha lā ʻoe e lōʻihi ai i ka Madonna? No ke aha i lōʻihi mau ai?

JAKOV: ʻAʻole wau i nīnau i koʻu iho i kēia nīnau a makaʻu wau i ka wā i nīnau mai ai lākou iaʻu. ʻAe mau wau i ka huli ʻana i kā mākou Wahine me kēia mau ʻōlelo: "Aloha ʻoe Madonna no ka mea ua nui kou manawa me mākou a hoʻomaikaʻi iā ʻoe no ka mea he lokomaikaʻi nui hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa".

FATHER LIVIO: ʻO ia he loiki nui.

JAKOV: He lokomaikaʻi nui ia i hāʻawi ʻia mai iā mākou a ʻoiaʻiʻo iaʻu e pōʻino i ka wā i nīnau mai ai lākou iaʻu i kēia nīnau. Pono mākou e hoʻomaikaʻi i ke Akua a noi iā ia me ko mākou Lady e noho pū me mākou no ka lōʻihi.

FATHER LIVIO: He mea maʻamau ia o kahi kikowaena hou, me ka mahalo, e hoʻihoʻi nui ana. ʻO kekahi manawa hoʻomaka wau inā ʻaʻole ia e hana no ka mea he koi nui loa ka honua no ke kōkua o ko mākou Lady.

JAKOV: ʻAe. Inā mākou e nānā i ka mea e hana nei: ke ōlaʻi, nā kaua, nā hoʻokaʻawale, nā lāʻau lapaʻau, nā hōʻoki ʻana, ʻike kākou ʻaʻole paha i hana ʻia kēia mau mea e like me kēia lā a manaʻo wau ʻaʻole makemake i kēia ao iā Iesu e like me kēia manawa. Ua hele mai kā mākou Mokuahine no kēia kumu a noho mau no kēia kumu. Pono mākou e hoʻomaikaʻi i ke Akua no ka hoʻouna ʻana iā ia e hāʻawi hou iā mākou i manawa kūpono e hoʻohuli ai.

FATHER LIVIO: E nānā kākou i kahi Jakov e hiki mai ana. Ke nānā nei i ka wā e hiki mai ana, ua haʻi kā mākou Mokuahine e wehe i ka naʻau e lana. Ma nā leka i ka 25 o ka mahina, ʻōlelo ʻoe e makemake ʻoe e kūkulu i ka honua hou o ka maluhia me mākou a ke ʻōlelo nei ʻoe e nānā nei ʻoe i ka hana ʻana i kēia hana. Makemake ʻoe e hana ia?

JAKOV: Loaʻa i ke Akua nā mea a pau.

FATHER LIVIO: He pane evanelia maikaʻi loa ia!

JAKOV: Hiki iā ke Akua, akā ke hilinaʻi pū ia iā mākou. Hoʻokahi mau mea e noʻonoʻo ana. ʻIke ʻoe i loko o Bosennia a me Herzegovina, ma mua o ke ʻano o ke kaua ʻana, kono ʻia ko mākou Lady no mākou he ʻumi makahiki e pule no ka maluhia.

MANA LIVIO: Mai Iune 26, 1981, ka lā e uē ai kā mākou Mōʻīwahine i ka ʻōlelo o ka maluhia iā Marija, i Iune 26, 1991, ka lā i hoʻoiho ʻia ai ke kaua, he ʻumi mau makahiki lākou.

JAKOV: No nā makahiki he nui ua nīnau ka poʻe i ke kumu no kēia maluhia no ka maluhia. ʻO ka hoʻoili ʻia ʻana o ke kaua, ua ʻōlelo ʻia ʻo ia: "No laila ua kono ʻo ia iā mākou." Akā, inā ua pio ke kaua ma luna o mākou. Kāhea ko mākou Mokuahine e kōkua iā ia e hoʻololi i kēia mau mea a pau.

FATHER LIVIO: Pono mākou e hana i kā mākou ʻāpana.

JAKOV: Akā, ʻaʻole mākou e kali i ka manawa hope loa a ʻōlelo, "ʻO ia ke kumu a kāhea mākou Momi iā mākou." Ke manaʻo nei au i kēia lā, ʻaʻole naʻe, he nui nā mea o mākou e noʻonoʻo nei i nā mea e hiki mai ana i ka wā e hiki mai ana, ka mea e ʻike i nā hoʻopaʻi a ke Akua e hāʻawi mai iā mākou a me nā mea o kēia ʻano ...

FATHER LIVIO: Ua kamaʻilio anei kā mākou Lady i ka pau o ka honua?

JAKOV: ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole lā ʻekolu lā o ka pouli, no laila, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e hoʻomākaukau i ka meaʻai a me nā kukui. Ua nīnau kekahi ke nīnau inā loaʻa iaʻu ke koʻikoʻi o ka mālama ʻana i nā mea huna. Aka, ke manao nei au ua kela poe keia kanaka i ike i ke Akua, ka mea i ike i kona aloha a ka mea e lawe ana ia Iesu iloko o kona puuwai, mai hopohopo i kekahi mea e pono a makaukau i kela manawa keia manawa o kona ola no ke Akua.

MANA LIVIO: Inā like me ke Akua, ʻaʻole pono mākou e makaʻu i kekahi mea, ʻoi aku ka launa iā ia.

JAKOV: Hiki i ke Akua ke kāhea iā mākou i kēlā me kēia manawa o ko mākou ola.

MANA LIVIO: ʻOiaʻiʻo!

JAKOV: ʻAʻole mākou e nānā i mua i hoʻokahi mau makahiki a i ʻole ʻelima paha makahiki.

FATHER LIVIO: Hiki pū i ka lā ʻapōpō.

JAKOV: Pono mākou e mākaukau nona no nā manawa a pau.