Rudo Runokunda zvese! - Kubvunzana naClaudia Koll
Rudo Runokunda zvese! - Kubvunzana naClaudia Koll naMauro Harsch
Mumwe wevanhu vasinganzwisisike vandakasangana navo mumakore achangopfuura zvirokwazvo ndiClaudia Koll. Akabudirira mutambi wenhau, parizvino anosanganisa chiitiko chake chehunyanzvi nebasa rakakura rekuzvipira mukufarira vana nekutambura. Ndakave nemukana wekusangana naye kanoverengeka, ndichiwana maari kunzwisisika, kunaka kwemweya uye kuda Mwari nemuvakidzani izvo zvaive zvisiri zvechienzi. Mukubvunzurudzwa, pamwe nekuzvibata, anotaura nezvehunhu uye zvemweya zvisungo, nezve zvakasangana zviitiko zvehupenyu, achizarura zvimwe zvakavanzika zvakachengetwa mumoyo make.
Pave nehurukuro yakawanda nguva pfupi yapfuura nezvekutendeuka kwako uye kuzvipira kwako kuvana vanoshaya. Chii chaunoda kutiudza nezvazvo?
Ndakasangana naIshe munguva inoshamisa yehupenyu hwangu, apo hapana murume aigona kundibatsira; ishe chete, anotarisisa zvakadzika zvemoyo, anogona kuzviita. Ini ndakadanidzira, uye Iye akandipindura nekupinda mukati memoyo wangu nechisimba chikuru cherudo; akaporesa mamwe maronda uye akaregerera mamwe matadzo angu; akandivandudza, akandiisa pabasa remunda wake wemizambiringa. Ndainzwa semwanakomana wemufananidzo wemwanakomana anopambadza: anotambirwa nababa, asina kutongwa. Ndakaona Mwari ari rudo uye huru Ngoni. Pakutanga ndakatsvaga Jesu mukutambudzika, mukuzvidira, muzvipatara, mune varwere veAIDS uye zvichitevera, ndichitevera kukoka kubva kuVIS (sangano risiri rehurumende rinomiririra mamishinari eSalesian munyika), ndakasangana nekusarongeka kukuru. kunge nzara nehurombo. Mu Africa ndakaona kumeso kweMwana Jesu akasarudza kuve murombo pakati pevarombo: Ndakaona vana vazhinji vachinyemwerera vachimhanya, vakapfeka mamvemve, uye vachivambundira uye vachitsvoda Ndakafunga nezveMwana Jesu, ndakaona mukati mavo Vazhinji Vana Jesu.
Unoyeuka here chero zvakaitika pakutenda muhudiki hwako?
Muhudiki hwangu ndakakura ndichigara naambuya bofu, avo zvisinei vakaona nemeso okutenda. Aive akazvipira kwazvo kuna Madonna wePompeii uye kuMoyo Wakachena waJesu; kuvonga kwaari ndakafema "kuvapo" kwekutenda. Gare gare, Ishe vakatendera ini kuti ndirasikirwe… Nhasi, zvakadaro, ndinonzwisisa kuti Mwari vanotendera kurasikirwa, uye zvakaipa, nekuti zvakanaka zvikuru zvinogona kuzvarwa mazviri. Mumwe nemumwe "mwanakomana anopambadza" anova chapupu cherudo nengoni huru dzaMwari.
Mushure mekutendeuka, chii chakachinja chaizvo musarudzo dzehupenyu hwako, muhupenyu hwezuva nezuva?
Kutendeuka ndechimwe chinhu chakakura uye chichienderera mberi: chiri kuvhura moyo wemunhu uye nekushanduka, kuri kurarama iyo Vhidhiyo nenzira kwayo, ibasa rekuvandudza rinobva pane zvakawanda zvidiki zvezuva nezuva kufa nekuzvarwa patsva. Muhupenyu hwangu ndinoedza kutenda Mwari nezviitwa zvidiki zvidiki zverudo: kuchengeta vana, kwevarombo, kukunda moyo wangu ... Ichokwadi kuti kune mufaro wakawanda mukupa kupfuura mukugamuchira. Dzimwe nguva, tichizvikanganwa isu, zvitsva zvitsva dzinovhura.
Wakanga uri kuMedjugorje zhizha rapfuura. Ndeapi mafungidziro awakadzosa?
Chaive chiitiko chakasimba icho chiri kundishandura uye kundipa zvitsva zvinokurudzira, ndichiri muchikamu chekushanduka-shanduka. Mukadzi wedu akaita basa rakakosha mukutendeuka kwangu; Ainyatsova amai, uye ndinonzwa semwanasikana wavo. Pese pazvinokosha ndinonzwa Ari padhuze, uye pandinoda kuita rugare, Rosary inogara iri munamato unodzosa rugare mumoyo mangu.
Iwe uri chapupu chekutenda kwechiKaturike unogara mukuzara uye nemufaro. Chii chaungada kutaura kune vechidiki vari kure kubva mukutenda uye kune avo vakasiya Chikristu neChechi kuti vangombundira zvimwe zvitendero kana humwe huchenjeri hwehupenyu?
Ndinoda kuvaudza kuti murume anoda Transcendent, kuvapo kwaKumutswa Jesu anova tariro yedu. Kufananidzwa nezvimwe zvitendero isu tina Mwari ane zvakare ane kumeso; Mwari akabayira hupenyu hwake nekuda kwedu uye anotidzidzisa kurarama zvakazara uye kuti tizvizive isu pachedu. Kusangana naMwari kunorevawo kupinda mukati medzidziso dzemwoyo yedu, tichizviziva isu, uye nekudaro kukura muvanhu: ichi ndicho chakavanzika chikuru chaJesu Kristu, Mwari wechokwadi uye munhu chaiye. Nhasi, nekuda Jesu, ini handigone kubatsira asi kuda murume, ini ndoda murume. Kuve Mukristu zvinoreva kuda hama yako uye kugamuchira rudo rwake, zvinoreva kunzwa kuvepo kwaIshe kuburikidza nehama dzedu. Kuda Jesu kunoita kuti tione vavakidzani vedu nemeso akasiyana.
Unofunga kuti chii chikonzero chakaita kuti vechidiki vazhinji vasiye Chechi?
Sosaiti yedu haititsigire munzira yemweya, inzanga inodisa zvinhu. Kushuva kwemweya kunoenda kumusoro, asi zvadaro nyika inotaura nesu nezvechimwewo chinhu uye haititsigire mukutsvaka Mwari kwechokwadi.Chechi zvakare ine matambudziko ayo. Hatifanire kukanganwa kuti iwo muviri unoshamisa waKristu uye nekudaro unofanirwa kutsigirwa, tinofanira kuramba tiri muChechi. Hatifanire kuzivisa munhu naMwari: dzimwe nguva zvikanganiso zvemunhu zvinova chikonzero nei tisingatendi kana kumira kurega kutenda… Izvi hazvina kunaka uye hazvina kunaka.
Mufaro chii kwauri?
Mufaro! Mufaro wekuziva kuti Jesu ariko. Uye mufaro unobva nekunzwa kuda Mwari nevanhu, uye mukutsiva rudo urwu.
Zvinokosha zvakanyanya muhupenyu hwako.
Rudo, rudo, rudo ...
Chii chakaita kuti ude kuve mutambi?
Ndichangobva kuberekwa, amai vangu neni takapinda mungozi kufa, uye sezvambotaurwa, ndakaiswa kuna gogo vangu, ivo ibofu. Gare gare, paaimira pamberi pe terevhizheni uye achiteerera madrama, ndaimuudza zvandaona. Chiitiko chekumuudza zvaiitika, nekuona uso hwake hwakavhenekerwa, zvakaiswa mandiri shuwa yekutaura nevanhu uye nekupa manzwiro. Ini ndinofunga kuti mhodzi yeruzivo rwangu rwekunyora inowanikwa mune chiitiko ichi.
Chiitiko chakajeka kwazvo pakati pendangariro dzako ...
Zvirokwazvo chiitiko chikuru kwazvo chaive chekunzwa mumoyo mangu rudo rukuru rwaMwari, rwakadzora maronda angu. Mukuzvipira, ini ndinorangarira kusangana nemurwere weAIDS akange apererwa nezano rekutaura uye anga asingachagona kufamba. Ndapedza masikati ese naye; akange aine fivha yakanyanya uye aidedera nekutya. Ndakabata ruoko rwake masikati ese; Ndakagovana naye matambudziko ake; Ndakaona maari kumeso kwaKristu ... handifi ndakakanganwa nguva idzo.
Zvirongwa zvenguva yemberi. Mukuzvipira uye muhupenyu hwemhizha.
Ndiri kuronga rwendo kuenda kuAngola yeVIS. Ini ndinoenderera mberi nekubatana kwangu nesangano rinobata nevakadzi vanopinda muItari mune dzakaoma mamiriro. Ini ndinonzwa kudaidzwa kubatsira avo vasina simba: varombo, kutambudzika, mutorwa. Mumakore ano ekuzvipira nevatorwa, ini ndakagara nyaya dzakawanda dzehetembo huru. Kuona mamiriro ehurombo kunyange mumaguta edu, ini ndakawana vanhu vane maronda makuru ehunhu, mutsika vasina kugadzirira kuzviwana ivo vari mukuomerwa; vanhu vanofanirwa kudzoreredza hunhu hwavo, izvo zvakadzama zvinoreva zvekuvapo kwavo. Kuburikidza nekinema ndinoda kuudza nezve zvimwe zvezvinhu chaizvo zvinobata chaizvo. Muna Zvita, muTunisia, kupfurwa kwefirimu idzva reRAI, pahupenyu hwaSt Peter, zvakare kuchatanga.
Urikuona sei nyika yeterevhizheni uye sinema nhasi?
Pane zvinhu zvakanaka uye ndine tariro yakawanda yeramangwana. Ini ndinofunga kuti nguva yakwana yekuti chimwe chinhu chakasiyana chiberekwe. Ini ndinorota hunyanzvi hunounza chiedza, tariro nemufaro.
Mukufunga kwako, chii chinangwa chemhanzi?
Zvirokwazvo izvo zvekuve muporofita, wekuvhenekera moyo yevanhu. Nhasi, zvakaipa zvinosimbiswa nehuwandu hwezvenhau zvinokuvadza mweya yedu uye tariro yedu. Munhu anofanira kuziva iye amene kunyange munhamo dzake, asi anofanira kuvimba netsitsi dzaMwari, dzinovhurira tariro. Isu tinofanirwa kutarisa chakanaka chakazvarwa kunyangwe paine zvakaipa: zvakaipa hazvingarambwe, asi zvinofanirwa kushandurwa.
Mutsamba yake kuArtists, Papa anokoka maartist kuti "vatsvage epiphanies dzerunako kuti muvaite chipo kupasi". Yedu itsva yekufamba "Ars Dei" yakazvarwazve iine chinangwa chekuwanazve mune art yakarongeka nzira yekutumira mameseji uye kukosha zvinobatsira kuyeuka kune pfungwa nemoyo wemunhu hutsvene hwehupenyu, iyo Transcendent, iyo zvakasarudzika zvaKristu. Kufamba saka zvakapesana zvakajeka neazvino hunyanzvi. Kutaura kwako pane izvi. Ndinofunga runako rwakakosha. Zuva rakanaka rinotaura nesu nezvaMwari uye rinovhura moyo yedu; chidimbu chakanaka chemimhanzi chinoita kuti tinzwe zvirinani. Mukunaka tinosangana Mwari.Mwari runako, rudo, kuwirirana, rugare. Hazvina kumboita sezvino munguva ino munhu haadi tsika idzi. Semaonero angu, hunyanzvi hwemazuva ano hunononoka kuenzaniswa nezvinotsvakwa nemweya wemunhu, asi ini ndinofunga kuti milenia nyowani ichavhura mitsva mitsva. Ini ndinotenda kuti Ars Dei zvirokwazvo inyowani nyowani uye ndinovimba inogona kukura sekureva kwaPope.
Pakupedzisira, meseji, chirevo chevaverengi vedu.
"Mwari akada nyika nokudaro, akapa Mwanakomana wake mumwechete, kuti ani naani anotenda kwaari arege kufa, asi ave nehupenyu hwusingaperi". (Jn 3-16) rudo runokunda zvese!
Kutenda Claudia uye kukuona muSwitzerland!
Kwayaka: "Rivista Germogli" Roma, 4 Mbudzi 2004