Medjugorje: vanachiremba vakaona kuti yakanga isiri chitsotsi

MUMEDJUGORJE TINONZWISISA SAYENSI KUTI ICHO CHAISINA CHEMA

"Mhedzisiro yeongororo yezvekurapa nesainzi yatakaita kune vanoona zveMedjugorje zvakatitungamira kuti tisiye hutachiona kana kuedzesera uye nokudaro huipi. Kana zviratidziro zvoumwari hazvisi kwatiri, asi tinogona kupupura kuti vanga vasiri kufungidzira kana kufananidzwa ”. Muzvinafundo Luigi Frigerio akasvika kekutanga muMedjugorje muna 1982 kuzoperekedza murwere aive apora kubva pabundu mu sacrum. Izvo zvisikwa zvainge zvangotanga gore rapfuura, asi mukurumbira wenzvimbo iri kure uko kwainzi Gospa kuoneka, yakanga yatotanga kupararira muItari. Frigerio aiziva chokwadi cheguta diki muBosnia uye akapihwa basa nabhishopi weSplit kuti atange kuferefeta nezvesainzi nezvevana vatanhatu vaiti vanoona nekutaura neMadonna.

Nhasi, makore makumi matatu nematanhatu gare gare, pakati pekuratidzwa paMedjugorje hongu kana kwete, izvo zviri kukurudzira gakava reKaturike mushure mekutaura kwaPapa Francis, anodzoka kuzotaura nezve chiitiko chekuferefeta icho chakapihwa pakarepo kuUngano yeDzidziso yekutenda. mumaoko aKadinali Ratzinger. Kusimbisa kuti pakanga pasina chitsotsi uye kuti ongororo dzakaitwa mu36, saka zvatova mune izvo, sekureva kwekomisheni yeRiniini, chingave chikamu chechipiri chemashura, chinonyanya "kunetsa". Asi pamusoro pezvose kurangarira kuti izvo zvidzidzo hazvina kumbobvira zvarambwa nechero ani. Mushure memakore ekunyarara, Frigerio akafunga kuudza iyo Nuova BQ mafambiro akaita vafambi.

Purofesa, ndiani aive boka rakaumbwa?
Isu taive boka revanachiremba veItari: Ini, uyo panguva iyoyo aive kuMangiagalli, Giacomo Mattalia, chiremba wekuvhiya kuMolinette muTurin, prof. Giuseppe Bigi, physiopathologist paYunivhesiti yeMilan, Dr.Giorgio Gagliardi, chiremba wezvemwoyo uye wepfungwa, Paolo Maestri, otolaryngologist, Marco Margnelli, neurophysiologist, Raffaele Pugliese, chiremba anovhiya, Prof Maurizio Santini, neuropsychopharmacologist paYunivhesiti yeMilan.

Maturusi api awakashandisa?
Isu tanga tatova nemidziyo yakakwenenzverwa panguva iyoyo: algometer yekudzidza kurwadziwa kwekunzwa, maviri corneal extesiometers yekubata iyo cornea, yakawanda-chiteshi polygraph, iyo inonzi nhema detector yekufunda panguva imwe chete yekufema mwero, BP, kurova kwemoyo uye dermocutaneous kuramba uye peripheral vascular kuyerera. Isu zvakare taive nemudziyo unonzi Ampleid mk 10 wekuwongorora kwenzira dzenzwi uye dzemaziso, anokwana 709 mita yemhedheni kubva kuAmplfon yekunzwa mafungiro eiyo acoustic nerve, cochlea uye kumeso mhasuru. Pakupedzisira mamwe makamera ekudzidza kwemudzidzi.

Ndiani akakupa basa rekuita ongororo?
Chikwata chakaumbwa muna1984 mushure mekusangana nabhishopi weSplit Frane Franic, iri pasi peguta guru reMedjugorje. Akatikumbira kudzidza, ainyatsofarira kunzwisisa kana zviitiko izvi zvakabva kuna Mwari Asi zvakanaka zvakabva kuna John Paul II. Pakudzoka kwangu kuItari, Dr. Farina pamwe naBaba Cristian Charlot vakataura naMsgr Paolo Knilica. Pope St. John Paul II vakakoka Monsignor Knilica kuti vanyore tsamba yekugadzwa iyo yaibvumidza vanachiremba veItari kuenda kukereke yeMedjugorie kune idzi ongororo. Zvese zvakabva zvaendeswa kuna Ratzinger. Ramba uchifunga kuti kwaive kuchiri nehutongi hwaTito, saka zvaive zvakakosha kuti ivo vave nechikwata chevanachiremba vekunze.

Ranga riri rako here boka rekutanga rekurapa kupindira?
Panguva imwechete sekudzidza kwedu, kuferefetwa kweboka reFrance rakarongedzwa naProfessor Joyeux's University yeMontpellier kwaiitika. Iri boka rakazvarwa kunze kwekufarira kwaanozivikanwa mariologist Laurentin. Vakazvipira pachavo kunyanya kune electroencephalographic zvidzidzo. Idzi nzira dzakasarudzika dzekurara kana pfari, dzainge dzakaratidza kuti fundus yeziso uye ocular system yaive akajairika maitiro.

Kuferefetwa kwakaitika riini?
Takaita nzendo mbiri: mumwe pakati pa8 na10 Kurume 1985, wechipiri pakati pa7 na10 Gunyana 1985. Muchikamu chekutanga takadzidza kungobwaira kwekubwaira nekubwaira kwemaziso uye nekuzorwa mafuta kweziso. eyelid. Mukubata iyo cornea isu takanzwisisa kuti imwe nzira yekuenzanisa inogona kusarudzika pasainzi, pamwe nekushandisa zvinodhaka, nekuti nekukurumidza mushure mechiitiko, kunzwisisika kweziso kwakadzokera kune zvakajairika tsika. Zvakatirova kuti kubhenekera kwechisikirwo kweziso kwakamira usati wagadzirisa pamufananidzo. Vaoni vatanhatu vaive nemusiyano wechishanu chechipiri, munzvimbo dzakasiyana, mukugadzirisa poindi imwechete yemufananidzo nekusiyana kusinga bvumike pakati pavo, saka panguva imwe chete.

Uye mumuedzo wechipiri waGunyana?
Takatarisana nekudzidza kwekutambudzika. Tichishandisa iyo algometer, inova square sentimita ndiro yesirivha iyo inopisa kusvika pamadhigirii makumi mashanu, takabata ganda pamberi, panguva uye mushure mechiitiko ichi. Zvakanaka: vasati uye mushure mekunge vaoni vabvisa minwe yavo muchikamu chechipiri, zvinoenderana nezvikamu, nepo panguva yechiitiko, vakave vasina hanya nemarwadzo. Takaedza kuwedzera kuburitswa kwemasekonzi mashanu, asi takamira kuti tidzivise kutsva. Kuita kwacho kwaigara kwakafanana: kusava nehanya, pasina maitiro ekupukunyuka kubva kune iyo incandescent ndiro.

Iko kusagadzikana kwakazviratidzawo here mune mamwe mativi emuviri akasimbiswa?
Kubata iyo cornea ine hushoma huremu hwemamirigiramu mana muchikamu chakajairika, vavoni vakavhara maziso avo nekukasika; panguva yechiitiko maziso akaramba akavhurika kunyangwe paine kushushikana kunyangwe anopfuura mamirigiramu zana ehuremu.

Zvinoreva here kuti muviri wakaramba kunyangwe zvinonetsa zvinokanganisa?
Ehe.Magetsi emagetsi evarume vakomana panguva yekuratidzira kwaitaridzika nekushandurwa kuri kuwedzera uye kuwedzera kwekushomeka kweganda, hypertonia yeiyo orthosympathetic system yakadzikiswa pakarepo mushure mechiitiko, kusavapo zvachose ganda remagetsi kuramba. Asi izvi zvakaitikawo patakashandisa chinyoreso chekuwedzera kurwadziwa kwechimbichimbi kana patakashandisa pikicha yemifananidzo: iyo electrodermia yakachinja, asi vaive vasina hanya nemamiriro ezvinhu. Pakangopera kuratidzwa kwechiitiko ichi kupera, hunhu uye maitiro kumiyedzo zvaive zvakajairika.

Wakanga uri muedzo kwauri here?
Ihwo hwaive humbowo hwekuti kana paine tsananguro yekunakidzwa, ndiko kuti kubviswa pane izvo mamiriro ezvinhu, ivo vaive vasipo zvachose uye panyama. Isimba rimwe chete rakaonekwa nachiremba waLourdes paBernadette paakaedza kenduru. Isu takashandisa musimboti mumwe chete nemichina yakajeka.

Kana mhedziso dzagadziriswa, iwe wakaitei?
Ini pachangu ndakaendesa chidzidzo kuna Kadhinari Ratzinger, icho chaive chakanyatsotsanangurwa uye chaiperekedzwa nemifananidzo. Ndakaenda kuUngano yeDzidziso yekutenda uko munyori waRatzinger, anotevera Kadhinari Bertone, aive akandimirira. Ratzinger aigamuchira nhume dzevaSpanish, asi akavaita kuti vamirire kweinopfuura awa kuti vataure neni. Ndakamutsanangurira muchidimbu basa redu kwaari ndichibva ndamubvunza kuti aifungei nezvazvo.

Iye?
Akandiudza kuti: "Zvinogoneka kuti humwari hunozviratidza kumunhu kuburikidza neruzivo rwevakomana". Akatora zororo rangu uye pachikumbaridzo ndakamubvunza kuti: "Asi papa anofunga sei?". Akapindura: "Papa anofunga seni". Kudzoka muMilan ndakaburitsa bhuku rine iwo data.

Zvakadii nezve studio yako izvozvi?
Ini handizive, asi ndinoziva kuti yaishandira Ungano uye nekudaro iyo Holy See kuitira kuti isarambidze mafambiro. Papa vaida kunzwisisa izvi pamberi, kuti vasarudze kana zvichidikanwa kuti vadzivise mafambiro. Vaverenga chidzidzo chedu, vakasarudza kusavadzivisa uye kuvabvumira.

Iwe unofunga kuti studio yako yakawanikwa nekambani yeKuini?
Ini ndinofunga kudaro, asi ini handina ruzivo nezve izvo.

Sei uchifunga kudaro?
Nekuti isu takavimbisa kuti vakomana vaive vakavimbika uye kunyanya pamusoro pemakore hapana zvakatevera zvidzidzo zvakaratidza zvatakawana.

Uri kureva here kuti hapana musayendisiti akapindira kupokana nekudzidza kwako?
Chaizvoizvo. Mubvunzo wakakosha waive wekuti mune izvo zvinofungidzirwa zviratidzo nezviratidzo izvo vaoni vakatenda mune izvo zvavakaona kana kuona zvavaitenda. Muchiitiko chekutanga iyo physiology yechinoitika inoremekedzwa, mune yechipiri kesi tingadai takazviwana isu takatarisana nekufungidzira kwekufungidzira kwehunhu hwechirwere. Padanho rezvekurapa nesainzi takakwanisa kuratidza kuti vakomana ava vaitenda mune izvo zvavakaona uye ichi chaive chinhu chikamu cheiyo Holy See kuitira kuti vasavhare chiitiko ichi ipapo uye kwete kurambidza kushanya kubva kune vakatendeka. Nhasi tadzoka kuzotaura nezveMedjugorje mushure memashoko aPapa.Dai zvaive zvechokwadi kuti aya haasi mashura zvaizoreva kuti tingave takatarisana nehunyanzvi hwakakura kwemakore makumi matatu nematanhatu. Ini ndinogona kudzora chitsotsi: isu hatina kubvumidzwa kutora iyo naloxone bvunzo kuti tione kana vaive pamushonga, asi paivewo nehumbowo hwekutanga chikonzero nei mushure mesekondi ivo vairwadziwa sevamwe.

Wataura nezvaLourdes. Wakanamatira kune iyo bureau nzira dzekurapwa kwekurapa?
Chaizvoizvo. Maitiro akagamuchirwa aive akafanana. Muchokwadi, isu taive kure hofisi yekurapa. Chikwata chedu chaisanganisira Dr. Mario Botta, aive chikamu chezvekurapa-sainzi komisheni yaLourdes.

Iwe unofungei nezve mashura?
Chandinogona kutaura ndechekuti hapana chokwadi chekubiridzira, hapana kuenzanisa. Uye kuti chiitiko ichi hachiwani tsananguro yekurapa nesainzi. Basa rekurapa kusabvisa chirwere, icho chakabviswa pano. Iko kupihwa kwezviitiko izvi kune zvemweya chiitiko harisi iro basa rangu, isu tine chete basa rekusiya simulation kana chirwere.