John Paul II paakada kuenda kuMedjugorje ...


John Paul II paakada kuenda kuMedjugorje ...

Musi waApril 27, vanhu vanopfuura mamirioni mashanu kubva pasirese pasirese vanozofambiswa nekuona jira kubva kuLoggia delle Benedizioni ichidzikira uye nekuona kumeso kwaJohn Paul II. Chido chevakawanda vakatendeka avo parufu rwake vakadaidzira "Zvitsvene izvozvi!" zvakanzwikwa: Wojtyla achagoneswa pamwe naJohn XXIII. SaRoncalli, Pontiff wePoland akachinjawo nhoroondo, kuburikidza nechimisikidzo papa uyo akadyara mbeu yemichero yakawanda iriko nhasi muChechi nepasi rose. Asi chakavanzika chesimba iri, chekutenda uku, chehutsvene uhu, chakabvepi? Kubva pahukama hwepedyo naMwari, uhwo hwakazadzikiswa mumunamato usingagumi uyo, kakawanda, wakaita kuti Akakomborerwa asiye mubhedha wake, nekuti aifarira kugara husiku pasi, achinamata. Izvi zvinosimbiswa neanomiririra chikonzero chechikonzero, Msgr. Slawomir Oder, mubvunzurudzo neZENIT yatinotaura pasi apa.

Zvese zvakataurwa pamusoro paJohn Paul II, zvese zvakanyorwa nezvazvo. Asi izwi rekupedzisira rakadeya kutaurwa here pamusoro peiyi "hofori yekutenda"?
Bishop Oder: John Paul II pachake akataura kuti kiyi yake yeruzivo yaive yei: "Vazhinji vanoedza kundiziva nekutarisa kwandiri kubva kunze, asi ini ndinogona kungozivikanwa kubva mukati, ndiko kuti, kubva pamoyo". Zvirokwazvo maitiro ekurohwa, kutanga, uye nekonisheni, saka, akatibvumidza kuti tiswedere padyo nemoyo wemunhu uyu. Chiitiko chega chega uye kupupura chaive chidimbu chaigadzira mosaic yemunhu anoshamisa wePontiff. Chokwadi, zvakadaro, kusvika pamwoyo wemunhu akaita saWojtyla kunoramba kuri chakavanzika. Tinogona kutaura kuti mumoyo waPapa uyu zvirokwazvo paive nerudo kuna Mwari uye kuhama, rudo rwunogara rwuchigadzirwa, rwusingambove chokwadi chakakwanisika muhupenyu.

Chii chawakawana chitsva kana chidiki chinozivikanwa nezvaWojtyla panguva yekutsvaga kwako?
Bishop Oder: Kune akati wandei ezvakaitika uye ehupenyu zvinhu zvakabuda mukuita izvo zvisinganyanyo kuzivikanwa. Imwe yeaya hapana mubvunzo hukama naPadre Pio waaisangana naye kazhinji uye waaive aine tsamba refu. Kunze kwetsamba dzaitozivikanwa, senge iyo yaakakumbira minamato yeprof. Poltawska, shamwari yake uye mushandirwi, tsamba yepedyo yakabuda apo Akakomborerwa akabvunza Musande wePietrelcina kweminamato yekureverera kwekupodzwa kwevakavimbika. Kana akakumbira minamato iye amene, panguva iyoyo, aive akabata hofisi yemukuru wedunhu reDiocese yeKrakow, achimirira kugadzwa kwaArchbishop mutsva uyo anozove iye.

Zvimwe?
Bishop Oder: Isu takawana zvakawanda nezve zvekunamata kwaJohn Paul II. Kupfuura chero chinhu, kwaive kusimbiswa kweizvo zvaitonzwisisika, zvinoonekwa zvehukama hwake naMwari.Uhukama hwepedyo naKristu mupenyu, kunyanya muEucharist kubva kwese izvo isu vakatendeka takaona maari sechibereko cherudo runoshamisa. , kushingaira kwevaapositori, kuda Chechi, kuda muviri unoshamisa. Ichi ndicho chakavanzika chehutsvene chaJohn Paul II.

Saka, pamusoro penzendo huru uye hurukuro huru, chinhu chemweya moyo wechipupuriro chaJohn Paul II?
Bishop Oder: Ndizvozvo. Uye pane chiitiko chinobata moyo chinomuziva kwazvo. Papa anorwara, pakupera kwerumwe rwenzendo dzake dzekupedzisira dzevaapositori, anodhonzwa kuenda muimba yekurara nevaaishanda navo. Zvimwe chete, mangwanani akatevera, tsvaga mubhedha wakakwana nekuti John Paul II akange apedza husiku hwese achinamata, akapfugama, pasi. Kwaari, kuungana mumunamato kwaive kwakakosha. Zvakawanda zvekuti, mumwedzi yekupedzisira yehupenyu hwake, akakumbira kuva nenzvimbo yeSakaramende Yakaropafadzwa mubhedhuru rake. Hukama hwake naIshe hwaive hunoshamisa kwazvo.

Papa aive akazvipirawo kwazvo kuna Maria ...
Bishop Oder: Ehe, uye nzira yekugadza vatibatsire kuti tiswedere padhuze neizvi zvakare. Isu takaongorora hukama hwakadzama hwaWojtyla naWedu Mukadzi. Hukama uhwo kunze kwevanhu dzimwe nguva hwaitadza kunzwisisa uye hwakaita sounoshamisa. Dzimwe nguva Pope panguva yemunamato waMarian akaonekwa akakwenenzverwa nemufaro, akaparadzaniswa kubva pane zvakakomberedza, sekufamba, musangano. Akararama hukama hwehukama chaihwo naMadonna.

Saka pane zvekare here chakavanzika munaJohani Paul II?
Bishop Oder: Zvirokwazvo hongu. Ini handikwanise kusimbisa zviratidzo, kukwidziridzwa kana kupihwa mari, senge ihwo hupenyu husinganzwisisike hunowanzo zivikanwa, asi naJohn Paul II chimiro chekuziva kwakadzama uye kwechokwadi kwaivepo uye kwakaratidzwa nekuve kwake pamberi paMwari. munhu asinganzwisisike, muchokwadi, iye anoziva kuve pamberi paMwari, uye anorarama zvese kutanga kubva mukusangana kwakadzama naIshe.

Kwemakore wawakagara mumufananidzo wemurume uyu atotorwa semutsvene muhupenyu. Zvinonzwa sei kumuona iye zvino achisimudzirwa kuma honors eatari?
Bhishopi Oder: Maitiro ekugadza canonisation aive chiitiko chinoshamisa. Zvinotaridza hupenyu hwangu hwehupirisita. Ndine rutendo rukuru kuna Mwari uyo akaisa uyu mudzidzisi wehupenyu nekutenda pamberi pangu. Kwandiri aya makore mapfumbamwe eichi chiitiko chave chiitiko chevanhu uye yakasarudzika kosi yekurovedza muviri yakaparidzwa 'zvisina kunangana' nehupenyu hwake, zvinyorwa zvake, nezvose zvakabuda mukutsvaga.

Une zviyeuchidzo zvako here?
Bishop Oder: Handisati ndambove mumwe wevashandi vepedyo veWojtyla, asi ndinochengeta mumoyo mangu nguva dzinoverengeka dzandakakwanisa kufema hutsvene hwaPope. Chimwe cheizvi chakatanga kumashure kwekutanga kwehupirisita hwangu, paChitsvene China China, 1993, iro gore iro iro Pope aida kugeza tsoka dzevapristi vane chekuita nekuumbwa kwevafundisi. Ndakanga ndiri pakati pevapristi ivavo. Kunze kwetsika yekufananidzira, kwandiri kunoramba kuripo kwekutanga kusangana nemunhu uyo ​​mune chiito chekuzvininipisa chaiye akandizivisa rudo rwake kuna Kristu uye nezvehupirisita pachahwo. Chimwe chiitiko chakamuka zvakare kumwedzi yekupedzisira yehupenyu hwaPapa: airwara, uye pakarepo ndakazviwana ndichidya naye, pamwe nevanyori, vabatsiri nevamwe vapristi vashoma. Ikoko zvakare ndinorangarira izvi zvakapusa uye nepfungwa huru yekutambirwa, yevanhu, iyo yakaitika mukureruka kwezviito zvake.

Benedict XVI munguva pfupi yapfuura akataura mubvunzurudzo kuti aigara achiziva kuti aigara padyo nemutsvene. Yake "Kurumidza, asi ita zvakanaka" ine mukurumbira, paakapa mvumo kutanga kweye beatification maitiro naPontiff ...
Bishop Oder: Ndakafara zvikuru kuverenga humbowo hwaPope Emeritus. Kwaive kusimbiswa kwezvaaigara achiburitsa pachena panguva yeupapa hwake: pazvinogoneka aitaura nezveaanotungamira akamutangira, muchivande kana paruzhinji panguva yemhuri nekutaura. Akagara achipa humbowo hukuru kurudo rwake kuna John Paul II. Uye, kune changu chikamu, ndinogona kuratidza kutenda kwakasimba kuna Benedetto nekuda kwemaonero aakaratidza mumakore apfuura. Ndakagara ndichinzwa ndiri padhuze naye uye ndinogona kutaura kuti akabatsira pakuvhura nzira yekurohwa nguva pfupi afa. Tichitarisa zviitiko zvenguva pfupi yadarika, ndinofanira kutaura kuti Divine Providence yakagadzira "nhungamiro" inoshamisa pane zvese maitiro.

Iwe unoona kuenderera naPapa Francis futi?
Bishop Oder: Iyo Magisterium inoenderera mberi, charism yaPeter inoenderera. Mumwe nemumwe wevaPope anopa kuenderana uye chimiro chenhoroondo chakatemwa neruzivo uye nehunhu hwake. Mumwe haakwanise kutadza kuona kuenderera. Kunyanya zvakanyanya, kune akati wandei maficha ayo Francis anorangarira John Paul II: chishuwo chakadzama chekuve padhuze nevanhu, hushingi hwokupfuura mamwe marongero, kuda kwaKristu kuripo muMuviri Wangu Wekusaziva, kutaurirana nenyika uye ne zvimwe zvitendero.

Chimwe chezvishuwo zvaWojtyla zvisina kuzadzikiswa kwaive kushanyira China neRussia. Zvinotaridza kuti Francesco iri kuvhura nzira munzira ...
Bishop Oder: Zvinoshamisa kuti kuedza kwakaitwa naJohn Paul II kwekuvhura kwakanangana neEast kwakawedzera nevateveri vake. Mugwagwa wakavhurwa naWojtyla wawana ivhu rakaorera pamwe nepfungwa dzaBenedict uye, ikozvino, nekuda kwezviitiko zvekare zvinofambidzana neapaapa Francis, zvakanyatso zadziswa. Iyo inogara iri iyo dialectic yekuenderera isu yataitaura nezvayo pamberi, inova iyo pfungwa yeChechi: hapana anotanga kubva pakutanga, dombo ndiKristu uyo ​​akaita kuna Peter nevateveri vake. Nhasi tinorarama gadziriro yezvichaitika muChechi mangwana.

Zvinonzi zvakare kuti John Paul II aive nechido chekushanyira Medjugorje. Chivimbiso?
Bishop Oder: Achitaura ega neshamwari dzake, Pope akataura kanopfuura kamwe chete: "Dai zvaibvira ndaida kuenda". Aya ndiwo mazwi asingafanirwe kududzirwa, zvakadaro, ane hunhu hwekucherechedzwa kana huchokwadi kuzviitiko munyika yeBosnia. Pope anga achigara achingwarira mukufamba, achiziva kukosha kwehofisi yake. Hapana mubvunzo, zvisinei, kuti zvinhu zvinoitika muMedjugorje zvinoshandura moyo yevanhu, kunyanya mukureurura. Zvino chishuwo chakaratidzwa naPope ndechekuti chishandurwe mumaonero echishuwo chake chehupirisita, ndiko kuti, chekuda kuve munzvimbo inotsvaga mweya waKristu nekuiwana, nekutenda kumupirisita, kuburikidza neSakaramende reKuyananisa kana Chidyo.

Uye sei asina kuenda ikoko?
Bishop Oder: Nekuti hazvisi zvese zvinogoneka muhupenyu….

Kwayaka: http://www.zenit.org/it/articles/quando-giovanni-paolo-ii-voleva-andare-a-medjugorje