U-Ivan waseMedjugorje: Ngikutshela engikubone ezulwini

Mina: Iyiphi into enkulu kakhulu engingayenza njengomuntu ukusabalalisa imiyalezo yeNkosazana Yethu?

U-Ivan: Inkosikazi yethu imeme wonke umuntu emhlabeni ukuthi abe ngabaphostoli, wonke amakholwa angaba umphostoli wokuvangela. Khulekela ukuvangela, ikakhulukazi ivangeli lomndeni, ukuvangela iBandla namuhla kanye nasemhlabeni. Yilokhu i-Our Lady ecela kithi sonke. Thandazela le nhloso.

Mina: Indlela engcono kakhulu yokushumayela ngomthandazo wethu, isibonelo sethu… noma kanjani?

U-Ivan: INkosikazi yethu incoma ukuya ekudumiseni uJesu.Ekukhulekeleni uhlangana noJesu, futhi lapho uhlangana noJesu, ukutshela konke okudingayo. Uma usuqalile ukukhonza, konke okunye kuba lula.

Mina: Sinenhlanhla enkulu eNew Orleans ngokuba sendaweni lapho kunamathempeli amaningi okukhulekela namathuba amaningi.

U-Ivan: Umthandazo womndeni uza kuqala, khona-ke ukudumisa kuzoba lula kakhulu. Kubalulekile ukuqala ukukhulekela komkhaya.

Mina: Uboneni eZulwini?

U-Ivan: Ngo-1984 iNkosazana yethu yangitshela ukuthi ngizoya ukuyobona iZulu. Weza kimi ezongitshela ukuthi uzongiyisa eZulwini. Bekungolwesine. NgoLwesihlanu iNkosazana Yethu ikhuluma nami imizuzu embalwa. Ngiguqe ngamadolo, ngiyasukuma, futhi uMadonna uhlala ngakwesobunxele sami. INkosikazi yethu ithatha isandla sami sobunxele. Ngithatha izinyathelo ezintathu, futhi iZulu liyavuleka. Ngithatha ezinye izinyathelo ezintathu futhi ngime egqumeni elincane. Igquma lifana neleBlue Cross yaseMedjugorje. Ngezansi ngibona iZulu. Ngibona abantu behamba bemamatheka, begqoke izingubo ezinde ezibomvu, eziluhlaza okwesibhakabhaka, ezisagolide. Abantu bayangibuza ukuthi banjani abantu. Bayacula, ingoma le kude. Kunzima kakhulu ukuchaza. Abantu bayangibuza ukuthi babonisa iminyaka emingaki, mhlawumbe iminyaka engu-30-35; bayakhuleka, bayacula, kanye nezingelosi eziningi. Ngizwe izingoma kude, izingelosi zicula, kunzima kakhulu ukuzichaza. Kusikhumbuza iVangeli lapho lithi: “Lezozinto iso elingazibonanga, nendlebe engazizwanga...” [1Kor 2,9 - ed] Kungakho iNkosazana Yethu ifikile yonke leminyaka engama-30, njengendoda. siqondise, usigcinele wonke umuntu indawo ezulwini.

Mina: INkosikazi yethu isivele kaningi nasezindaweni eziningi. Wake wakhuluma nawe ngezinye izimangaliso?

U-Ivan: Inkosikazi yethu ayizange ikhulume nami nganoma yimuphi omunye umcabango. Angikwazi ukusho kwabanye ababoni, uMirjana, Jakov, Ivanka, Vicka, noma Marija.

Mina: Uyazi ukuthi wonke umboni uthola izimfihlo eziyi-10 ezifanayo, noma kukhona izimfihlo ezingaka?

U-Ivan: Abantu abaningi bangibuza umbuzo ofanayo. INkosikazi yethu ayinikezi ababoni abayisithupha izimfihlo ezihlukene ezingama-60. Ezinye izimfihlo ziyefana. Lapho ngihlala eMedjugorje ehlobo, lapho iningi lababoni bekhona, ngikhuluma nabanye babo lapho siyophuza ikhofi, ikakhulukazi noJacov noMirjana. Ake sikhulume ngezimfihlo ezifanayo.