Umbono kaMedjugorje Vicka ulandisa ngohambo lwakhe lokuya emuva kokuphila noMadonna

Ubaba uLivio: Ake ungitshele ukuthi ubukuphi nokuthi bekuyisiphi isikhathi.

UVicka: Besisendlini encane kaJakov lapho kufika uMadonna. Kwakuyintambama, cishe ngo-15,20 pm. Yebo, kwakungu-15,20.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe awulindelanga uhlelo lweMadonna?

UVicka: Cha. UJakov nami sibuyele endlini kaCitluk lapho ayekhona umama wakhe (Qaphela: umama kaJakov useshonile). Emzini kaJakov kukhona igumbi lokulala nekhishi. Umama wakhe wayehambile eyothenga ukudla, ngoba ngemuva kwesikhashana kwakumelwe siye esontweni. Ngenkathi silindile, mina noJakov saqala ukubheka i-albhamu yezithombe. Ngokuphazima kweso uJakov wehla embhedeni phambi kwami ​​ngabona ukuthi uMadonna usefikile. Masinyane wathi kithi: "Wena, Vicka, kanye nawe, Jakov, woza nami sizobona iZulu, iPurigatori neHogo". Ngazitshela ukuthi: "Kulungile, uma kungukuthi yilokho uLady wethu akufunayo". Esikhundleni salokho uJakov wathi ku-Our Lady: "Letha uVicka, ngoba banabazalwane abaningi. Ungangilethi engingukuphela kwengane. " Ukusho lokhu ngoba wayengafuni ukuhamba.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngokusobala wayecabanga ukuthi awusoze wabuya! (Qaphela: Ukunqikaza kukaJakov bekungokomthetho, ngoba kwenza ukuthi le ndaba ibe nokukholeka futhi ibe yangempela.)

UVicka: Yebo, wayecabanga ukuthi ngeke siphinde sibuye futhi ukuthi siyophila unomphela. Ngaleso sikhathi, bengicabanga ukuthi zingathatha amahora amangaki noma zingaki izinsuku futhi ngangizibuza ukuthi sizokwenyuka yini noma sehle. Kepha ngomzuzwana nje uMadonna wangibamba ngesandla sokudla noJakov ngesandla sobunxele nophahla lwavuleka ukuba sidlule.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe konke kwavula?

UVicka: Cha, bekungavulwanga konke, kuphela leyo ngxenye eyayidingeka ukuze idlule. Emizuzwini embalwa sifike ePharadesi. Lapho sikhuphuka, sabona phansi izindlu ezincane, ezincane kunalokho ezazibonwa endizeni.

Ubaba uLivio: Kepha wawubheka phansi emhlabeni, ngenkathi uthwelwe?

UVicka: Njengoba sakhuliswa, sabheka phansi.

Ubaba uLivio: Futhi uboneni?

IVicka: Konke kuncane kakhulu, kuncane kunalokho uma uhamba ngendiza. Ngaleso sikhathi, ngicabange ukuthi: "Ngubani owaziyo ukuthi kuthatha amahora amangaki noma kuthatha izinsuku ezingaki!". Esikhundleni umzuzwana sifikile. Ngabona isikhala esikhulu….

Ubaba uLivio: Bheka, ngifunde kwenye indawo, angazi noma kuyiqiniso yini ukuthi kunomnyango, nomuntu osekhulile oseduze kwakhe.

UVicka: Yebo, kunjalo. Kukhona umnyango wezinkuni.

Ubaba uLivio: Mikhulu noma incane?

UVicka: Kuhle. Yebo, kuhle.

Ubaba uLivio: Kubalulekile. Kusho ukuthi abantu abaningi bangena kuyo. Ngabe umnyango uvulekile noma uvaliwe?

UVicka: Bekuvaliwe, kepha iLady yethu sayivula sangena kuyo.

Ubaba uLivio: Ah, uvule kanjani? Ngabe yavula yodwa?

UVicka: Uyedwa. Saya emnyango owawuzivula wedwa.

Ubaba uLivio: Kubukeka sengathi ngiyaqonda ukuthi uLwethu weNdawo ungumnyango wezulu ngempela!

UVicka: Kwesokudla komnyango kwakunguSt. Peter.

Ubaba uLivio: Wazi kanjani ukuthi kwakungu S. Pietro?

UVicka: Ngazi ngokushesha ukuthi kwakunguye. Ngikhiye, kuncane, ngentshebe, ngesitoko esincane, ngezinwele. Kuhlale kunjalo.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe wayemi noma ehleli?

UVicka: Sukuma, ume emnyango. Lapho nje singena, saqhubeka, sihamba, mhlawumbe sibathathu, amamitha amane. Asivakashele lonke iPharadesi, kodwa uLwethu wasichazela lona. Sibonile isikhala esikhulu sizungezwe ukukhanya okungekho lapha emhlabeni. Sibonile abantu abangakhuluphele noma abanciphile, kodwa bonke befana futhi banezembatho ezintathu ezinemibala: grey, ophuzi nobomvu. Abantu bayahamba, bacule, bakhuleke. Kukhona nezingelosi ezincane ezindizayo. ILady yethu ithe kithi: "Bhekani ukuthi bajabule futhi baneliseke kanjani abantu abalapha eZulwini." Kuyinjabulo engeke ichazwe futhi ayikho lapha emhlabeni.

Ubaba uLivio: INdikazi yethu ikwenze waqonda ubunzulu bePharadesi okuyinjabulo engapheli. "Kukhona injabulo ezulwini," kusho umyalezo. Wabe esekukhombisa abantu abaphelele futhi ngaphandle kwesici esithile somzimba, ukusenza siqonde ukuthi, lapho kuba nokuvuka kwabafileyo, sizoba nomzimba wenkazimulo ofana nokaJesu ovusiwe. Ngingathanda-ke nokho ukwazi ukuthi hlobo luni lwemvunulo abagqoke. Ama-Tunics?

UVicka: Yebo, ezinye zezingubo.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe yonke le ndlela baye ezansi noma babemfishane?

UVicka: Bade futhi bahamba yonke indlela.

Ubaba uLivio: Imibala yayinjani imibala?

UVicka: Mpunga, uphuzi futhi ubomvu.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngokubona kwakho, le mibala inencazelo?

UVicka: Unkosikazi wethu akazange asichaze. Lapho efuna, i-Our Lady iyachaza, kodwa ngaleso sikhathi akazange asichaze ukuthi kungani benemibala emithathu yemibala ehlukene.

Ubaba uLivio: AmaNgelosi anjani?

UVicka: Izingelosi zifana nezingane.

Ubaba uLivio: Ingabe banomzimba ophelele noma inhloko kuphela njengasebucikweni beBaroque?

UVicka: Banomzimba wonke.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe nabo bagqoka izigqoko?

UVicka: Yebo, kodwa ngifushane.

Ubaba uLivio: Uyayibona imilenze ke?

UVicka: Yebo, ngoba azinayo ingubo ende.

Ubaba uLivio: Banamaphiko amancane?

UVicka: Yebo, banamaphiko futhi bandiza ngenhla kwabantu abaseZulwini.

Ubaba uLivio: Wake waqanjwa yiNkosikazi yethu ngokukhipha isisu. Uthe kuyisono esikhulu futhi nalabo abasithengayo kuzodingeka baphendule ngakho. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, izingane akufanele zibekwe icala ngalokhu futhi zifana nezingelosi ezincane ezulwini. Ngokubona kwakho, ngabe izingelosi ezincane zepharadesi yilezo zingane ezihluthwe izisu?

UVicka: Unkosikazi wethu akashongo ukuthi amaNgilosi amancane eZulwini izingane zokuhushula izisu. Uthe ukukhipha isisu kuyisono esikhulu futhi labo bantu abakwenzile, hhayi izingane, bayasabela kukho.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe usudlulele ePurgatory?

UVicka: Yebo, ngemuva kokuthi siye ePurgatory.

Ubaba uLivio: Usufikile kude?

IVicka: Cha, iPurigatori isiseduze.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe uLwethu wele ukulethe?

UVicka: Yebo, ubamba izandla.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe ukwenze wahamba noma ukundiza?

UVicka: Cha, cha, kwasenza sahamba ngendiza.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngiyaqonda. I-Lady yethu yathutha isuka eParadise yaya ePurgatory, ikubambe ngesandla.

IVicka: I-Purgatory nayo iyindawo enhle. EPurigatori, noma kunjalo, awuboni abantu, umane ubone inkungu enkulu futhi uyezwa ...

Ubaba uLivio: Uzizwa unjani?

UVicka: Uzwa sengathi abantu bayahlupheka. Uyazi, kukhona imisindo ...

Ubaba uLivio: Ngisanda kushicilela incwadi yami: "Ngoba ngikholelwa eMedjugorje", lapho ngibhala khona ukuthi ePurigatori bazozizwa sengathi bayakhala, bamemeze, banging ... Ngabe kunjalo? Nami benginenkinga yokuthola amagama afanele esiNtaliyane ukuze ngiqonde lokho okushoyo ngesiCroatia kubahambi.

UVicka: Awungeke usho ukuthi ungezwa ukushaywa noma ukukhala. Lapho awuboni abantu. Akufani neZulu.

Ubaba uLivio: Uzizwa unjani-ke?

UVicka: Uzwa sengathi bayahlupheka. Kungukuhlupheka kwezinhlobo ezahlukene. Uyawezwa amazwi ngisho nemisindo, njengomuntu ozishaya ...

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe bayashayisana?

UVicka: Kuzwakala kanjena, kodwa angibonanga. Kunzima, Baba Livio, ukuchaza into ongayiboni. Kuyinto eyodwa ukuzizwa omunye ukubona. EPharadesi uyabona ukuthi bayahamba, bacule, bayakhuleka, ngakho-ke ungakubika ngqo. EPurigatori ungabona inkungu enkulu kuphela. Abantu abakhona balinde ukuthi imikhuleko yethu ikwazi ukuya ezulwini ngokushesha okukhulu.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngubani owathi imithandazo yethu ilinde?

UVicka: Unkosikazi wethu uthe abantu abasePurigatori balinde ukuthi imithandazo yethu ikwazi ukuya ezulwini ngokushesha okukhulu.

Ubaba uLivio: Lalelani, uVicka: singakwazi ukuhumusha ukukhanya kwePharadesi njengobukhona baphezulu lapho abantu abakule ndawo yobumnandi babhapathizwa khona. Kusho ukuthini inkungu yasePurgatory, ngombono wakho?

UVicka: Kimi, inkungu nakanjani isibonakaliso sethemba. Bayahlupheka, kepha banethemba eliqinisekile lokuthi bazokuya ezulwini.

Ubaba uLivio: Kungithinta ukuthi i-Our Lady iphikelela emithandazweni yethu yemiphefumulo yasePurigatori.

UVicka: Yebo, uLady wethu uthi badinga imikhuleko yethu yokuya ezulwini kuqala.

Ubaba uLivio: Lapho-ke, imithandazo yethu ingafushanisa iPurgatory.

UVicka: Uma sithandaza kakhulu, baya ezulwini kuqala.

Ubaba uLivio: Manje ake usitshele ngesihogo.

UVicka: Yebo. Siqale sabona umlilo omkhulu.

Ubaba uLivio: Susa ilukuluku: uzizwe ufudumele?

UVicka: Yebo. Sasiseduze ngokwanele futhi kwakukhona umlilo phambi kwethu.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngiyaqonda. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, uJesu ukhuluma "ngomlilo ongapheli".

UVicka: Uyazi, besikade sikhona no-Our Lady. Kwakuyindlela ehlukile kithina. Ngiyitholile?

Ubaba uLivio: Yebo, kunjalo! Impela! Ubukade ungumbukeli kuphela kepha ungesona abadlali baleyo ngoma esabekayo.

UVicka: Sibone abantu abathi ngaphambi kokungena emlilweni ...

Ubaba uLivio: Ngixolise: ngabe umlilo wawumkhulu noma umncane?

UVicka: Kuhle. Kwakungumlilo omkhulu. Sibonile abantu abajwayelekile ngaphambi kokungena emlilweni; lapho-ke, lapho bewela emlilweni, baguqulwa babe yizilwane ezinyantisayo. Kukhona inhlamba eziningi nabantu abakhalaza bememeza.

Ubaba uLivio: Lokhu kuguqulwa kwabantu kube yizilwane ezesabekayo kimi kubonisa isimo sokuhlanekezelwa kwabalahliwe abashisa amalangabi enzondo ngoNkulunkulu. Susa ilukuluku elilodwa: ingabe laba bantu baguqulwa baba yizilo ezinkulu futhi zinezimpondo?

UVicka: Yini? Izimpondo?

Ubaba uLivio: Labo abanamadimoni.

UVicka: Yebo, kunjalo. Kufana nalapho ubona umuntu, ngokwesibonelo intombazane emnyama, evamile ngaphambi kokungena emlilweni. Kepha uma yehlela emlilweni bese ibuyela emuva, iyashintsha ibe yisilo, kube sengathi ayikaze ibe ngumuntu.

Ubaba uLivio: UMarija usitshele, engxoxweni eyenziwe kwiRadio Maria, ukuthi ngenkathi iLady Yethu ikukhombisa isiHogo ngesikhathi sokweyisa kodwa ngaphandle kokukuyisa emzamweni wokufa, le ntombazane emnyama, lapho iphuma emlilweni, nayo izimpondo nomsila. Ngabe kunjalo?

UVicka: Yebo, kunjalo.

Ubaba uLivio: Iqiniso lokuthi abantu baguqulwa baba yizilo nazo zinezimpondo nomsila kimi kusho ukuthi sebefana namademoni.

UVicka: Yebo, kuyindlela yokufana namademoni. Inguquko eyenzeka ngokushesha. Ngaphambi kokuthi bawele phansi emlilweni, kuyinto eyejwayelekile futhi lapho befika beguqukile.

U-Lady wethu wathi kithi: “Lababantu abalapha esihogweni baya lapho ngokuzithandela kwabo, ngoba bafuna ukuya lapho. Labo bantu abaphikisana noNkulunkulu lapha emhlabeni sebevele beqala ukuhlala Esihogweni bese baqhubeka nje ”.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngabe u-Lady wethu washo lokhu?

UVicka: Yebo, yebo, usho njalo.

Ubaba uLivio: U-Lady wethu wabe esethi, uma kungenjalo ngqo ngala mazwi, kodwa eveza lo mqondo, wokuthi ubani ofuna ukuya esihogweni uya, egcizelela ekulweni noNkulunkulu kuze kube sekupheleni?

UVicka: Noma ngubani ofuna ukuhamba, kunjalo. Iya ukuthi ngubani ophikisana nentando kaNkulunkulu. Noma ngubani ofuna, uyahamba. UNkulunkulu akathumeli muntu. Sonke sinethuba lokuzisindisa.

Ubaba uLivio: uNkulunkulu akathumeli muntu esihogweni: iLady yethu yasho yini, noma uyisho?

UVicka: uNkulunkulu akathumeli. ILady yethu yathi uNkulunkulu akathumeli muntu. Yithi esifuna ukuhamba, ngokukhetha kwethu.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngakho-ke, ukuthi uNkulunkulu akamthumeli muntu, uLady wethu washo njalo.

UVicka: Yebo, wathi uNkulunkulu akamthumeli muntu.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngizwe noma ngifunde kwenye indawo ukuthi i-Our Lady yathi umuntu akufanele athandazele imiphefumulo yesihogo.

UVicka: Kulabo besihogo, cha. I-Lady yethu yathi asithandazeli labo besihogo, kodwa sithandazela labo basePurigatori kuphela.

Ubaba uLivio: Ngakolunye uhlangothi, abalahliwe besihogo abayifuni imithandazo yethu.

UVicka: Abazifuni futhi abasizi ngalutho.
Umthombo: Indaba ethathwe kwinhlolokhono kaBaba uLivio, umqondisi weRadio Maria