Lapho uJohn Paul II efuna ukuya eMedjugorje ...
Lapho uJohn Paul II efuna ukuya eMedjugorje ...
Ngo-Ephreli 27, abantu abangaphezu kwezigidi ezi-5 abavela kuwo wonke umhlaba bazothinteka ngokubona indwangu evela eLoggia delle Benedizioni yehlisa nokuthola ubuso bukaJohn Paul II. Isifiso sabaningi abathembekile ekufeni kwakhe samemeza "Ngcwele manje!" kuzwakale: UWojtyla uzokwenziwa ogcwelisiwe kanye noJohn XXIII. NjengoRoncalli, uPapa wasePoland naye washintsha umlando, ngopapa wezinguquko owahlwanyela imbewu yezithelo eziningi eziphila namuhla eSontweni nasemhlabeni. Kodwa imfihlo yala mandla, yalokhu kukholwa, kwalobu bungcwele, ivelaphi? Kusuka ebuhlotsheni obuseduze noNkulunkulu, okwatholakala emthandazweni ongapheli okwathi, amahlandla amaningi, kwabangela ukuthi uBusisiwe ashiye umbhede wakhe unganyakazi, ngoba wayekhetha ukuchitha ubusuku emhlabathini, emthandazweni. Lokhu kufakazelwa ngu-postulator wesizathu sokugcotshwa, uMsgr. Slawomir Oder, engxoxweni neZENIT esibika ngayo ngezansi.
Konke sekushiwo ngoJohn Paul II, konke kubhalwe ngakho. Kepha ingabe izwi lokugcina liphinyiselwe ngempela kule "nswi yokholo"?
UMbhishobhi Oder: UJohn Paul II uqobo uphakamise ukuthi yini ukhiye wakhe wolwazi: "Abaningi bazama ukungazi ngokungibuka ngaphandle, kodwa ngingaziwa ngaphakathi kuphela, okungukuthi, ngokusuka enhliziyweni". Impela inqubo yokuhlanjululwa, okokuqala, neyokugcotshwa, ngakho-ke, isivumele ukuthi sisondele enhliziyweni yalo muntu. Okuhlangenwe nakho ngakunye nobufakazi kwakuyisiqeshana esakha umdwebo womuntu ongavamile walo Pontiff. Impela, noma kunjalo, ukufinyelela enhliziyweni yomuntu ofana noWojtyla kuhlala kuyimfihlakalo. Singasho ukuthi enhliziyweni yaloPapa kwakukhona ngempela uthando ngoNkulunkulu nangabazalwane, uthando oluhlala lwenziwa, olungakaze lube yiqiniso empilweni.
Yini oyitholile okusha noma okuncane okwaziwayo ngeWojtyla ngesikhathi socwaningo lwakho?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Kunezici eziningana zomlando nezempilo ezivele kule nqubo ezingaziwa kangako. Okunye kwalokhu ngokungangabazeki ubuhlobo noPadre Pio ayehlangana naye kaningi futhi ayenobhala obude naye. Ngaphandle kwezinhlamvu ezithile esezivele zaziwa, njengaleyo lapho acela khona ukuthandazela iprof. UPoltawska, umngani wakhe kanye nosebenzisana naye, kwavela izincwadi eziseduze lapho uBusisiwe acela khona uSanta wasePietrelcina ngemikhuleko yokuncenga ukuphulukiswa kwabathembekile. Noma wacela ukukhulekelwa yena, ngaleso sikhathi, owayephethe ihhovisi lika-vicar omkhulu weDiocese yaseKrakow, elinde ukuqokwa kukaMbhishobhi Omkhulu omusha ozoba nguyena kamuva.
Okunye?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Sithole okuningi mayelana nengokomoya likaJohn Paul II. Ngaphezu kwanoma yini enye kwakuyisiqinisekiso salokho okwase kubonakala kakade, kubonakala ngobudlelwano bakhe noNkulunkulu.Ubudlelwano obusondelene noKristu ophilayo, ikakhulukazi kuMthendeleko okuvela kuwo konke lokho thina abathembekile esakubona kuye njengesithelo sesisa esingajwayelekile , intshiseko yabaphostoli, ukuthanda iSonto, ukuthanda umzimba ongaqondakali. Le yimfihlo kaJohn Paul II yobungcwele.
Ngakho-ke, ngale kohambo olukhulu nezinkulumo ezinkulu, ngabe isici esingokomoya yinhliziyo yesikhundla sobupristi sikaJohn Paul II?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Impela. Futhi kunesiqephu esithinta inhliziyo esimkhomba kahle kakhulu. UPapa ogulayo, ekupheleni kolunye lohambo lwakhe lokugcina lobuphostoli, uhudulelwa egumbini lokulala ngabalingani bakhe. Ngokufanayo, ngakusasa ekuseni, thola umbhede unganyakazi ngoba uJohn Paul II wayechithe ubusuku bonke ethandaza, eguqe ngamadolo, emhlabathini. Kuyena, ukuhlangana ngomthandazo kwakubalulekile. Kangangokuthi, ezinyangeni zokugcina zempilo yakhe, wacela ukuthola isikhala seSakramente elibusisiwe egumbini lakhe lokulala. Ubudlelwano bakhe neNkosi babungajwayelekile.
UPapa futhi wayezinikele kakhulu kuMariya ...
UMbhishobhi Oder: Yebo, futhi inqubo yokugcotshwa kusisizile ukuba sisondele nakulokhu. Siphenye ubudlelwane obujulile bukaWojtyla noMama Wethu. Ubudlelwano abantu bangaphandle kwesinye isikhathi behluleka ukubuqonda futhi lokho kwakubonakala kumangaza. Kwesinye isikhathi uPapa ngesikhathi somkhuleko waseMarian wavele waqothuka ngenjabulo, wahlukaniswa nomongo ozungezile, njengokuhamba, umhlangano. Wahlala ubudlelwane obuhle kakhulu noMadonna.
Ngabe kukhona futhi isici esiyimfihlakalo kuJohn Paul II?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Impela yebo. Angikwazi ukuqinisekisa imibono, ukuphakanyiswa noma ukwabiwa, njengaleyo impilo eyimfihlakalo evame ukubonwa ngayo, kepha ngoJohn Paul II isici semfihlakalo ejulile futhi eyiqiniso sasikhona futhi sabonakaliswa ngokuba kwakhe phambi kukaNkulunkulu. oyimfihlakalo, empeleni, yilowo onolwazi lokuba sebukhoneni bukaNkulunkulu, futhi ophila konke kusuka ekuhlanganeni okujulile neNkosi.
Sekuyiminyaka uhlala esithombeni sale ndoda esivele sithathwa njengongcwele empilweni. Ngabe kuzwakala kanjani ukumbona manje ephakanyiselwa kuma-altare?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Inqubo yokugcotshwa kwaba yinto engajwayelekile. Impela kuphawula impilo yami yobupristi. Nginokubonga okukhulu ngoNkulunkulu obeke lo thisha wokuphila nokholo phambi kwami. Kimi le minyaka eyi-9 yenqubo ibe yinto yomuntu kanye nenkambo engajwayelekile yokuzivocavoca ngokomoya eshunyayelwe 'ngokungaqondile' ngempilo yakhe, imibhalo yakhe, nakho konke okuphume ocwaningweni.
Ingabe unezinkumbulo zomuntu siqu?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Angikaze ngibe ngomunye wabasebenzisana kakhulu noWojtyla, kodwa ngigcina enhliziyweni yami izikhathi eziningana lapho ngikwazile ukuphefumula ubungcwele bukaPontiff. Enye yalezi zinto yaqala ekuqaleni kobupristi bami, ngoLwesine oNgcwele ngo-1993, unyaka uPapa ayefuna ukugeza ngawo izinyawo zabapristi ababebandakanyeka ekwakheni izifundiswa. Ngangiphakathi kwalabo bapristi. Ngaphandle kwenani elingokomfanekiso elingokwesiko, kimi kusele ukuxhumana kokuqala nomuntu okwathi kuleso senzo esithobekile wangitshela uthando lwakhe ngoKristu nangobupristi uqobo. Omunye umcimbi wabuya ngasezinyangeni zokugcina zempilo kaPapa: wayegula, ngokungazelelwe ngazithola sengidla naye, kanye nonobhala, ababambisene nabanye abapristi abambalwa. Lapho futhi ngikhumbula lokhu kulula nokuzwa okukhulu kokwamukelwa, kwesintu, okwenzeka ngobulula bezandla zakhe.
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UMbhishobhi Oder: Kwangijabulisa kakhulu ukufunda ubufakazi bukaPapa Emeritus. Kwakuwukuqinisekiswa kwalokho ayekucacisa ngaso sonke isikhathi enkambisweni yakhe yobupapa: noma nini lapho kungenzeka khona wayekhuluma ngomanduleli wakhe amthandayo, ngasese noma esidlangalaleni ngesikhathi semindeni nezinkulumo. Uhlale enikeza ubufakazi obukhulu bokuthi uyamthanda uJohn Paul II. Futhi, ngokwami, ngikwazi ukuzwakalisa ukubonga okukhulu kuBenedetto ngesimo asikhombisile eminyakeni edlule. Ngangilokhu ngizizwa ngisondelene kakhulu naye futhi ngingaqinisekisa ukuthi wayezimisele ngokuvula inqubo yokuhlulwa ngemuva nje kokufa kwakhe. Uma ngibheka izehlakalo zakamuva zomlando, kufanele ngithi i-Divine Providence yenza "inkomba" enhle kakhulu yenqubo yonke.
Ngabe uyakubona ukuqhubeka noPapa Francis?
UMbhishobhi Oder: IMagisterium iyaqhubeka, uthando lukaPeter luyaqhubeka. Ngamunye woPhapha unikeza ukungaguquguquki kanye nomlando onqunywa ngokuhlangenwe nakho kwakhe nangobuntu bakhe. Umuntu ngeke ahluleke ukubona ukuqhubeka. Ngokuqondile, kunezici eziningana lapho uFrancis ekhumbula khona uJohn Paul II: isifiso esijulile sokusondela kubantu, isibindi sokudlula izinhlelo ezithile, uthando lukaKristu olukhona eMzimbeni Wakhe Ongamanga, inkhulumomphendvulwano nezwe kanye ezinye izinkolo.
Esinye sezifiso zikaWojtyla ezingafezekanga bekuwukuvakashela eChina naseRussia. Kubukeka sengathi uFrancesco uvula indlela kule ndlela ...
UMbhishobhi Oder: Kuyamangaza ukuthi imizamo eyenziwe nguJohn Paul II yokuvula indawo ebheke eMpumalanga yande nabalandela ngemuva kwakhe. Umgwaqo ovulwe nguWojtyla usuthole indawo evundile ngomqondo kaBenedict futhi, manje, ngenxa yemicimbi yomlando ehambisana nopapa kaFrancis, iyagcwaliseka ngokuphelele. Kuhlale kungukuthi ukukhuluma okuqhubekayo ebesikhuluma ngakho phambilini, okuwumqondo weSonto: akekho oqala phansi, itshe nguKristu owasebenza kuPetru nakwabalandelayo. Namuhla siphila ngokulungiselela okuzokwenzeka eSontweni kusasa.
Futhi kuthiwa uJohn Paul II wayenesifiso sokuvakashela eMedjugorje. Isiqinisekiso?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Ekhuluma ngasese nabangane bakhe, uPapa washo kaningi: "Ukube bekunokwenzeka bengingathanda ukuhamba". Lawa ngamagama okungafanele ahunyushwe, noma kunjalo, anomlingiswa wokuqashelwa noma ukuba semthethweni kwemicimbi ezweni laseBosnia. UPapa ubelokhu eqaphele kakhulu ekunyakazeni, ekwazi ukubaluleka kwehhovisi lakhe. Akungabazeki nokho ukuthi izinto ziyenzeka eMedjugorje eziguqula izinhliziyo zabantu, ikakhulukazi ekuvumeni izono. Bese-ke isifiso esivezwe nguPapa kufanele sihunyushwe ngombono wentshisekelo yakhe yobupristi, okungukuthi, yokufuna ukuba sendaweni lapho umphefumulo ufuna khona uKristu futhi umthole, ngenxa yompristi, ngeSakramente Lokubuyisana noma nge-Eucharist.
Futhi kungani engayanga lapho?
UMbhishobhi Oder: Ngoba akuyona yonke into engenzeka empilweni….
Umthombo: http://www.zenit.org/it/articles/quando-giovanni-paolo-ii-voleva-andare-a-medjugorje