Bruno Cornacchiola: Ndikukuuzani uthenga womwe Dona Wathu wandipatsa

Ine sindimabisa kutengeka komanso manyazi anamva mu msonkhano ndi Bruno Cornacchiola. Ndinapangana naye nthawi yokambilana naye. Ndimabwera munthawi yake ndi mnzanga wojambula zithunzi Ullo Drogo, m'nyumba yolemekezeka yomwe amakhala, mdera labata komanso lakumidzi ku Rome. Iye amatilandira ife ndi chikondi chachikulu; kuphweka kwake nthawi yomweyo kumatipangitsa kukhala omasuka; amatipatsa ndipo amafuna iwe. Iye ndi mwamuna wa zaka zake za m'ma makumi asanu ndi awiri, ali ndi ndevu zoyera ndi tsitsi, manja ake, maso okoma, mawu otukwana pang'ono. Iyenso ndi munthu wokangalika komanso wochita kusankha zochita, wochita zinthu mopupuluma. Mayankho ake ndi achangu. Timachita chidwi ndi mlandu wa kutsutsidwa komwe amalankhula nawo komanso chikondi chake kwa Namwali, kukonda kwake Tchalitchi, kudzipereka kwake kwa Papa komanso kwa ansembe.

Atamaliza kuyankhulana amatitengera ku chapel kukapemphera. Kenako amatiuza za anthu ena a m’dera limene anayambitsa komanso amene amakhala nawo. Tchalitchi sichinadzitchulebe pa maonekedwe a Madonna, koma chikutsatira nkhaniyi ndi zochitika zake ndi chidwi. Mosasamala kanthu za izi, timakhulupirira kuti Bruno Cornacchiola ndi mboni yodalirika.

Wokondedwa Cornacchiola, ndinu mboni ya mfundo zomwe zimadzutsa chidwi mwa okayikira ndi chidwi chachikulu mwa okhulupirira. Mukumva bwanji pamaso pa chinsinsi ichi chomwe chimakugonjetsani?

Nthawi zonse ndimalankhula mophweka. Chinsinsi chomwe ndidakhala, kuwonekera kwa Mayi Wathu, ndimachiyerekeza ndi chinsinsi chomwe wansembe ali nacho. Iye wapatsidwa mphamvu yaumulungu ya chipulumutso cha mnansi wake. Iye saona mphamvu zake zazikulu zimene ali nazo, koma amakhala ndi moyo n’kuzigawira kwa ena. Kotero ziri kwa ine pamaso pa mfundo yaikulu iyi. Ndili ndi chisomo osati kwambiri kuwona ukulu wa zomwe zachitika mpaka kukhala moyo wachikhristu wokwanira.
Tiyeni tiyambe ndi maziko. Munali wosakhulupirira, mdani woipitsitsa wa Mpingo ndipo munali kukonzekera kupha Papa Pius XII. Munafika bwanji pa chidani chotere?

Ndinafika pa udani chifukwa cha umbuli, ndiko kuti, kusadziwa zinthu za Mulungu.Ndili mnyamata ndinali wa gulu la Action Party komanso lachipolotesitanti la Adventist. Kuchokera kwa iwo ndinalandira mtundu wa chidani pa Mpingo ndi ziphunzitso zake. Sindinali wosakhulupirira, koma wodzazidwa ndi udani ndi Mpingo. Ndinkaganiza kuti ndapeza choonadi, koma chifukwa cholimbana ndi Tchalitchi ndinkadana ndi choonadi. Ndinkafuna kupha papa kuti amasule anthu kuukapolo ndi kusadziwa kumene, monga ndinaphunzitsidwa, Tchalitchi chinawasunga. Zomwe ndinkafuna kuchita zinali zopindulitsa anthu.
Ndipo tsiku lina, pa Epulo 12, 1947, mudali mtsogoleri wa zomwe zidapangitsa moyo wanu kusintha. M'dera lodziwika bwino komanso lotumphuka ku Roma, "mudawaona" Madona. Kodi munganene mwachidule momwe zinthu zinayendera?

Apa tiyenera kupanga maziko. Pakati pa Adventist ndinali mkulu wa achinyamata amishonale. Pa ntchitoyi ndinayesa kuphunzitsa wachinyamata kukana Ukaristiya, komwe kulibe kukhalapo kwenikweni kwa Kristu; kukana Namwali, yemwe Sali Wachimvekere, kukana Papa yemwe ndi wosalephera. Ndidayenera kulankhula za mituyi ku Roma, ku Piazza della Croce Croce, pa Epulo 13, 1947, lomwe linali Lamlungu. Tsiku lotsatira, Loweruka, ndinkafuna kupita ndi banja langa kumidzi. Mkazi wanga anali kudwala. Ndinapita ndi ana ndekha: Isola, wazaka 10; Carlo, wazaka 7; Gianfranco, wazaka 4. Ndidatenganso Baibulo, kakalata ndi pensulo, kuti ndilembe zolemba pazomwe ndidanena tsiku lotsatira.

Popanda kukhala pa ine, pomwe ana akusewera, amataya ndikupeza mpira. Ndimasewera nawo, koma mpira umatayikanso. Ndikupeza mpira ndi Carlo. Isola akupita kukatola maluwa. Mwana womaliza amakhala yekha, atakhala pansi patsinde la mtengo wa buluzi, patsogolo pa phanga lachilengedwe. Nthawi inayake ndimamuyimbira mnyamatayo, koma sanandiyankhe. Ndili ndi nkhawa, ndimamuyandikira ndikumuwona atagwada kutsogolo kwa phanga. Ndimamumva akudandaula: "Dona wokongola!" Ndimaganiza zamasewera. Ndimayitanira Isola ndipo amabwera ndi maluwa m'manja mwake ndipo amagwadanso, nati, "Mkazi wokongola!"

Kenako ndikuwona kuti Charles nawonso amagwada ndikufuula kuti: «Dona wokongola! ». Ndimayesetsa kuwaukitsa, koma akuwoneka olemera. Ndimachita mantha ndikudzifunsa kuti: chimachitika ndi chiyani? Sindikuganiza za chizungu, koma zamatsenga. Mwadzidzidzi, ndikuwona manja awiri oyera kwambiri akutuluka m'phangalo, akugwira maso anga ndipo sindikuonananso. Kenako ndikuwona kuwala kokongola, kowala, ngati kuti dzuwa lalowa m'phanga ndipo ndikuwona chomwe ana anga amatcha "Mkazi Wokongola". Amakhala wopanda nsapato, atavala chovala chakumaso kumutu, chovala choyera kwambiri komanso gulu lapinki lomwe lili ndi zokutira ziwiri mpaka bondo. Mdzanja lake ali ndi buku lofiirira. Amalankhula ndi ine nati kwa ine: "Ndine chomwe ndili mu Utatu waumulungu: Ndine Namwali wa Chibvumbulutso" ndipo akuwonjezera kuti: "Mukundizunza. Ndikukwanira. Lowetsani khola ndikumvera. » Kenako adaonjezeranso zinthu zina zambiri kwa Papa, kwa Mpingo, zachisoni, kwa achipembedzo.
Kodi mumalongosola bwanji chilengezo cha kuonekera kumeneku chomwe chinapangidwa zaka khumi m'mbuyomo, ndi Dona Wathu mwiniwake, kwa Luigina Sinapi komanso kudzera mwa iye kwa Papa Pius XII wamtsogolo?

Pano sindingathe kudzitchula ndekha. Adandiuza kale mfundo imeneyi. Ndikadakhala wokondwa, koma mfundo iliyonse iyenera kukhala ndi umboni wamphamvu. Tsopano ngati umboni uwu ulipo, awutulutse, ngati palibe, musalankhule za izo.
Tiyeni tibwererenso ku mawonekedwe a akasupe atatu. M'malingaliro amenewo ndi apambuyo, mudawonapo bwanji Dona Wathu: wachisoni kapena wachimwemwe, wodera nkhawa kapena wopanda nkhawa?

Onani, nthawi zina Namwali amalankhula ndi nkhope yachisoni. Zimakhala zachisoni makamaka akamalankhula za Mpingo ndi ansembe. Chisoni, komabe, ndi cha mayi. Iye akuti: “Ndine mayi wa abusa oyera mtima, atsogoleri achipembedzo oyera, atsogoleri achipembedzo okhulupirika, atsogoleri achipembedzo. Ndikufuna kuti atsogoleri azipembedzo azikhala moona monga Mwana wanga afuna ”.
Ndikhululukireni chifukwa chosavutikira, koma ndikuganiza kuti owerenga athu onse ali ndi chidwi chokufunsani funso ili: kodi mungatifotokozere, ngati mungathe, Kodi Mkazi wathu ali bwanji mwathupi?

Nditha kumufotokozera ngati mkazi wammawonekedwe, woonda, brunette, wokongola koma osati wakuda, mawonekedwe akuda, tsitsi lalitali lakuda. Mkazi wokongola. Nanga bwanji ngati ndingamupatse zaka? Mayi wazaka 18 mpaka 22. Achichepere mu mzimu ndi thupi. Ndamuona Namwaliyo.
Pa Epulo 12 chaka chatha ndidawonanso zodabwitsa za dzuwa ku akasupe atatu, zomwe zimazungulira zokha kusintha mtundu wake ndipo zimatha kukhazikika osasokonezeka m'maso. Ine ndinamizidwa mu gulu la anthu pafupifupi 10. Kodi izi zidatanthauzanji?

Choyamba cha Virigo akamapanga zodabwitsa izi, monga mukukunenera, ndikuyitanitsa anthu kuti asanduke. Koma amachitanso kuti akope ulamuliro kuti akhulupirire kuti wabwera padziko lapansi.
Mukuganiza bwanji kuti Dona Wathu adawonekera kambiri komanso m'malo osiyanasiyana munthawi yathu ino?

Namwaliyo adawonekera m'malo osiyanasiyana, ngakhale m'nyumba za anthu, kwa anthu abwino kuti awalimbikitse, kuwatsogolera, kuwunikira pa cholinga chawo. Koma pali malo ena omwe amatchuka padziko lonse lapansi. Nthawi zonsezi Namwali amakhala ngati wabwerera. Uli ngati thandizo, thandizo, thandizo lomwe amapereka kwa Mpingo, Thupi lachilendo la Mwana wake. Samanena zinthu zatsopano, koma ndi mayi yemwe amayesetsa kuyitanitsa ana ake kuti abwerere ku njira yachikondi, mtendere, kukhululuka, kutembenuka.
Tiyeni tisanthule zina mwazomwe zili m'mapulogalamuwa. Kodi mutu wankhani yanu ndi Madona unali wotani?

Mutuwu ndi waukulu. Nthawi yoyamba yomwe adalankhula ndi ine kwa ola limodzi ndi mphindi makumi awiri. Nthawi zina ankanditumizira mauthenga omwe anakwaniritsidwa.
Kodi Dona Wathu wakuwonekera kangati kwa iwe?

Padakali pano maulendo 27 kuti Namwali achita mantha kuti awoneke ndi wosauka uyu. Onani, Namwali mu nthawi 27 izi sanalankhule konse; Nthawi zina amangonditonthoza. Nthawi zina amadziwoneka ngati wavala yemweyo, nthawi zina amavala choyera chokha. Pomwe amalankhula ndi ine, anayamba kundichitira ine, kenako dziko lapansi. Ndipo nthawi iliyonse ndikalandira uthenga ndimapereka ku Tchalitchi. Iwo amene samvera ovomereza, wotsogolera zauzimu, Mpingo sangathe kutchedwa wachikhristu; iwo omwe samapita ku ma sakalamenti, omwe sakonda, amakhulupirira ndikukhala mu Ukaristiya, Namwali ndi Papa.Pamene amalankhula, Namwali akunena zomwe ali, zomwe tiyenera kuchita kapena munthu m'modzi; koma koposa iye amafuna pemphero ndi kulapa kuchokera kwa tonsefe. Ndikukumbukira malingaliro awa: "Ave Marìa mumanena ndi chikhulupiriro ndi chikondi pali mivi yagolide yambiri yomwe imafika Pamtima wa Mwana wanga Yesu" ndi "Pitani Lachisanu ndi zisanu ndi zitatu zoyambirira za mweziwo, chifukwa ndi lonjezo la mtima wa Mwana wanga"
Chifukwa chiyani Dona Wathu adadziwonetsa ngati Namwali wa Chibvumbulutso? Kodi pali mawu enieni a m'Baibulo?

Chifukwa ine, monga Mprotestanti, ndinali kuyesera kulimbana nazo ndi Baibulo. Kumbali ina, amene samvera Tchalitchi, ziphunzitso, miyambo, samvera Baibulo. Namwaliyo adawonekera ndi Baibulo m'manja mwake, ngati akundiuza kuti: mukhoza kulemba motsutsa ine, koma ndine amene ndalembedwa apa: Wopanda kanthu, Virgin nthawizonse. Amayi a Mulungu, Kukwezedwa Kumwamba. Ndimakumbukira kuti anandiuza kuti: “Mnofu wanga sunawole ndipo sunavule. Ndipo ine, wotengedwa ndi Mwana wanga ndi angelo, ndinatengedwa kupita Kumwamba. Ndipo Utatu Waumulungu wandiveka Mfumukazi ".
Mawu ake onse?

Inde, kunali kuitanira anthu ku Baibulo, ngakhale Khonsolo lisanabwere. Namwaliyo anayesa kundiuza kuti: Inu mumenyana nane ndi Chibvumbulutso, mmalo mwake ine ndiri mu Chibvumbulutso.
Kodi uthenga wa akasupe Atatu walengezedwa kotheratu, kapena kodi tidzamvetsa kufunika kwake m’tsogolo?

Mwaona, ndapereka zonse ku Mpingo, kupyolera mwa Bambo Rotondi ndi Bambo Lombardi. Pa December 9, 1949, Fr Rotondi ananditengera kwa Papa Pius XII, amene anandikumbatira ndi kundikhululukira.
Apapa anakuuzani chiyani?

Pambuyo pa pemphero kwa Namwaliyo, limene anandipangitsa kuti ndiwerenge pa wailesi ya Vatican, Papa anatembenukira kwa ife oyendetsa sitima ya pamtunda natifunsa kuti: - Kodi aliyense wa inu alankhule kwa ine? . Ndinayankha kuti: “Ine, Chiyero Chanu” Iye anapita patsogolo n’kundifunsa kuti: “Ndi chiyani, mwana wanga? ". Ndipo ndinam’patsa zinthu ziŵiri: Baibulo lachipulotesitanti ndi mpeni umene ndinagula ku Spain umene unayenera kumupha. Ndidamupempha chikhululuko ndipo adandigwira pachifuwa chake adanditonthoza ndi mawu awa: “Chikhululukiro chabwino kwambiri ndi kulapa. Pita mosavuta"
Tiyeni tibwerere ku Tre Fontane. Kodi ndi uthenga wotani umene Mayi Wathu wakupatsani?

Anthu ayenera kubwerera kwa Khristu. Sitiyenera kufunafuna mgwirizano, koma umodzi womwe iye akufuna.” Bwato la Petro, khola la Khristu likuyembekezera anthu onse. Tsegulani zokambirana ndi aliyense, lankhulani ku dziko lapansi, yendani padziko lonse lapansi kupereka chitsanzo chabwino cha moyo wachikhristu.
Chotero kodi uli uthenga wa chipulumutso, wa chiyembekezo ndi kukhulupirira m’tsogolo?

Inde, koma palinso zinthu zina zomwe sindingathe kuzinena komanso zomwe mpingo umadziwa. Ndikukhulupirira kuti John Paul Wachiwiri adawawerenga pa February 23, 1982, Namwali adawonekera kwa ine, adalankhulanso ndi ine za iye: zomwe ayenera kuchita ndi momwe ayenera kuchitira, osaopa kuukiridwa, chifukwa khalani pafupi ndi iye.
Kodi apapa adzazunzidwabe?

Mwaona, sindinganene kalikonse, koma kuwukira kwa papa sikungokhala kwakuthupi. Ana angati akumuukira mwauzimu! Amamvetsera ndipo sachita zimene wanena. Amumenya m’manja, koma sanamumvere.
Yohane Paulo Wachiwiri adafuna kuti Chaka Chopatulika chilimbikitse anthu lero kuti alandire mphatso ya chipulumutso. Kodi Maria SS ali ndi udindo wanji? mu “kukambitsirana” kovuta kumeneku pakati pa Kristu ndi munthu wamakono?

Choyamba ziyenera kunenedwa kuti Namwali ndi chida, chogwiritsidwa ntchito ndi chifundo chaumulungu kukumbukira umunthu. Iye ndi mayi amene amadziwa, kukonda ndi kukhala ndi choonadi kuti chidziwike, kukondedwa ndi kukhala ndi tonsefe. Iye ndi mayi amene amatiitanira ife tonse kwa Mulungu.
Mukuwona bwanji ubale wachikondi womwe ulipo pakati pa Papa ndi Mayi Wathu?

Namwali Woyera anandiuza kuti amakonda John Paul Wachiwiri mwapadera ndipo amaonetsa mosalekeza kuti amakonda Mayi Wathu. Komabe. Ndipo izi muyenera kulemba, Namwali amamudikirira pa Akasupe Atatu, chifukwa kuchokera pamenepo ayenera kupatulira dziko lonse lapansi ku Mtima Wosasinthika wa Mariya.
Chikumbutso cha kuonekera koyamba pa Epulo 12 chikuyandikira chaka chino. Kodi ndizopanda nzeru kudzifunsa ngati padzakhala "chizindikiro" cha Madonna ku Tre Fontane?

Sindikudziwa kalikonse mpaka pano. Kodi Virgo akufuna kuchita? Pa kumasuka kwanu. Chimene mukupempha ndi amene amapita ku Grotto kupempherera mnansi wake ndipo iye mwini amatembenuka, kotero kuti malowo akhale malo ochotserako machimo, ngati kuti ndi purigatoriyo.
Inu mumapita kuzungulira dziko, ndipo ndi umboni wanu mumachita zabwino zazikulu kwa anthu. Koma ngati mungalankhule ndi atsogoleri a mayiko, kwa amuna a boma, kodi mungafune kunong'oneza kapena kufuula chiyani?

Ndikanati kwa aliyense: chifukwa chiyani sitikondana wina ndi mzake, kuti tichite ife tonse chinthu chimodzi, mwa Mulungu mmodzi, pansi pa Mbusa mmodzi? Bwanji osatikonda ndi kutithandiza? Tikatero, tidzakhala mumtendere, mogwirizana ndi umodzi wofunidwa ndi Namwaliyo.
Chotero, uthenga umene umatisonkhezera kuchita zabwino ndi mtendere?

Sanandifunse konse za izi. Ndinu oyamba mwina, chifukwa Namwali Woyera amakulimbikitsani kuti mundifunse funso ili. Inde, za Akasupe Atatuwo ndi uthenga wamtendere: chifukwa chiyani sitikondana wina ndi mnzake mu mtendere? Ndi bwino kukhala tonse ogwirizana. Kodi tikufuna kuvomereza kukondana wina ndi mzake ndikupanga choonadi cha umodzi padziko lapansi cha chikondi, zolinga ndi malingaliro? Lingaliro siliyenera kukhala lonyada.
Ndikukuthokozani kuchokera pansi pamtima ndipo ndikufunsani funso lomaliza: Kodi mukunena chiyani kwa owerenga magazini a Marian omwe mumawadziwa?

Pamene tilandira magazini ngati iyi, yomwe si ntchito koma ndi njira yofalitsira Mawu a Mulungu ndi kudzipereka kwa Marian, ndimati: lembetsani, ŵerengani ndi kuikonda. Iyi ndi magazini ya Maria.