Ivan waku Medjugorje: zonse zomwe Dona Wathu akukonzekera dziko lapansi
Apanga zonse zomwe Dona Wathu akukonzekera - Kukambirana ndi Ivan Dragicevic, June 26, 2005 ku Medjugorje
Pa June 25, 2005, ku Medjugorje, panthawi yowonekera, mayesero a zachipatala anachitidwa pa wamasomphenya Ivan Dragicevic ndi wamasomphenya Marija Pavlovic Lunetti ndi bungwe lachipatala la ku France lotsogoleredwa ndi Prof. Henri Joyeux. Tikuwona Ivan Dragicevic wolumikizidwa ku zida zosiyanasiyana zamankhwala. Kale mu 1984 Prof. Henri Joyeux ndi gulu lake anali atayesa mayeso achipatala kwa omwe adawona masomphenya a Medjugorje pamodzi ndi katswiri wodziwika bwino wa zamadzi Prof. Rene Laurentin.
Ivan, mudabwerako kuchokera ku America koyambirira kwa Meyi kuti mukakhale nawo kuno ku Medjugorje kwa oyendayenda. Kodi tsiku lachikumbutso linali bwanji kwa inu?
Chaka chilichonse ndi chikumbutso chatsopano cha zaka zomwe zatsala pang'ono kutha. Si ife tokha amene timakumbukira, koma Mayi Wathu mwiniwakeyo amatibwezera kumasiku ndi zaka zoyambirira zomwe zadutsa. Amasankha nthawi zina zomwe zinali zofunika kwambiri. Tsopano ndikukhudzidwa ndi zonse zomwe zidachitika kuno masiku angapo apitawa. Zimene ndinkamva m’masiku amenewo zidakali zamoyo mwa ine. Ndikayang’ana m’mbuyo zaka 24 zapitazi, ndimaona kuti pakhala zinthu zabwino zambiri, komanso zoipa zochokera ku ulamuliro wa chikomyunizimu. Koma ngati tiyang’ana pa unyinji wa anthu amene amachokera ku dziko lonse lapansi, lerolino tingakhaledi oyamikira kwa Mayi Wathu chifukwa cha kukonzanso kwauzimu kumeneku kumene Iye akugwira ntchito mu Tchalitchi ndi momwe dziko latsopano limabadwira. Kwa ine ichi ndiye chizindikiro chachikulu chowoneka. Anthu onsewa amakhala mboni za kukonzanso kwa uzimu kwa mpingo. Ngati tiyang'ana mozungulira ife mu mpingo wa Medjugorje, timawona amwendamnjira omwe ali ndi ludzu la chikhulupiriro chamoyo, kuvomereza ndi Ukaristia. Izi ndi zomwe Dona Wathu adapeza ndi kudzichepetsa Kwake.
Pa tsiku lokumbukira chikumbutso munaona mzukwa. Kodi mungafotokoze zomwe mwakumana nazo?
Ndi nthawi yapaderadera pamene mubwera ndikukhala osangalala komanso mwamtendere. Apa n’kuti atabwera anaona zida zimene anandigwiritsira ntchito. Ndikuganiza kuti tsiku lachikumbutso siliyenera kukhala nthawi yoyeserera zasayansi, koma tinavomera. Kwa ine, tsiku lachikumbutso limatanthauza chisangalalo ndi chilengedwe, koma nthawi ino sizinali zangwiro chifukwa ndinayenera kusamala kugwada kuti ndisadule zida zomwe zidagwiritsidwa ntchito kwa ine. Inemwini ndikuganiza kuti pofika pano titha kusiya ndi mayeso ndi kukayikira, chifukwa chake ndikunena kuti ngati muli ndi chikhulupiriro, palibe chifukwa chokhalira umboni watsopano wasayansi, popeza mutha kuzindikira kuchokera kunja, kuchokera ku zipatso zomwe zimachitikadi. Pano.
Ivan, pakuwonekera munawona Atate Woyera John Paul II. Kodi mungafotokoze zomwe zinachitika?
Pa April 2, 2005, ndinali nditakhala kale m’galimoto yanga kwa maola atatu panjira yopita ku New Hampshire, dera lapafupi ndi Boston, pamene mkazi wanga anandiimbira foni kundiuza kuti Papa wamwalira. Tinapitirizabe kuyendetsa galimoto ndipo tinafika kutchalitchi kumene kunali anthu oposa 18. Rosary idayamba 18.40 koloko masana ndipo kuwonekera kunali XNUMX pm. Mayi athu anafika ali osangalala kwambiri ndipo monga nthawi zonse ankapempherera aliyense ndikudalitsa aliyense amene anali mu mpingo. Nditapereka umboni kwa inu, Atate Woyera adawonekera kumanzere kwanu.
Iye ankawoneka ngati munthu wa zaka 60 koma ankawoneka wamng'ono; anali moyang'anizana ndi Madonna ndipo anali akumwetulira. Ndikayang'ana Atate Woyera, Mayi Wathu nayenso amamuyang'ana. Patapita nthawi, Mayi Wathu anayang'ana mmbuyo kwa ine nandiuza mawu awa: "Wokondedwa mwana! Taonani, mwana wanga, ali ndi ine.”
Nthawi yomwe ndidawona Atate Woyera idatenga pafupifupi masekondi 45. Ndikadati ndifotokoze nthawi yomwe ndidawona Atate Woyera pafupi ndi Dona Wathu, ndinganene kuti idakutidwa ndi kukumbatirana kwapamtima kwa Amayi akumwamba. Sindinakhalepo ndi mwayi wokumana ndi Atate Woyera pamene anali moyo, ngakhale kuti amasomphenya ena anakumana naye kangapo. Pachifukwa ichi, lero ndikuthokoza kwambiri Mayi Wathu chifukwa chokhala ndi mwayi wowona Atate Woyera ali naye Kumwamba.
Ndi chiyani chinanso chomwe mungatiuze kuti titsirize?
Zomwe Dona Wathu adayamba kuno ku Medjugorje pa Juni 24, 1981, zomwe zidayamba padziko lapansi, siziyima koma zikupitilira. Ndikufuna kunena kwa onse amene awerenge mawuwa, kuti tonse pamodzi tiyenera kulandira zomwe Dona Wathu akufuna kwa ife kwambiri.
Ndizabwino kufotokoza za Mayi Wathu ndi zina zonse zakunja zomwe zimachitika, koma cholinga chake ndi mauthenga. Izi ziyenera kulandiridwa, kukhala moyo ndi kuchitiridwa umboni. Chilichonse chomwe Dona Wathu adakonza, adzazindikira, ngakhale popanda ine, Ivan, kapena wopanda wansembe wa parishi Bambo Branko, ngakhale wopanda Bishopu Peric. Chifukwa ulendo wonsewu uli mu dongosolo la Mulungu ndipo Iye ndi wapamwamba kuposa ife amuna.
Source: Medjugorje - Kuyitanira kwa pemphero