Ivan waku Medjugorje: Ndikukuwuzani momwe kuwonekera kwa Madonna kumachitikira
Wawa Ivan, ungatifotokozere momwe chithunzi cha Dona Wathu chilili?
«Vicka, Marija ndi ine timakumana ndi a Madonna tsiku lililonse. Timadzikonzekeretsa pobwereza rosari pa 18 ndi anthu onse mu chapel. Pomwe mphindi ikuyandikira, 7 min 20, ndikumva kupezeka kwa Madonna mu mtima mwanga. Chizindikiro choyamba cha kufika kwake ndi kuunika, kuwala kwa Paradiso, chidutswa cha Paradiso chimadza kwa ife. Madonna atangofika sindimawonanso chilichonse: ndangomuwona! Pamenepo sindimva konse danga kapena nthawi. M'mawonekedwe onse, Dona Wathu amapemphera ndi manja otambasuka kwa ansembe omwe alipo; tidalitseni tonse ndi mdala wake. Posachedwa, Mayi Wathu amapemphera kuti akhale achiyero m'mabanja. Pempherani chilankhulo chake cha Chiaramu. Kenako, kulankhulana kwapadera kumachitika pakati pa tonse awiriwa. Ndikosavuta kufotokozera kuti kukumana ndi Madonna kuli ngati. Pa msonkhano uliwonse amandilankhula ndi malingaliro okongola kwambiri kuti nditha kukhala ndi moyo mpaka tsiku limodzi.
Mukumva bwanji mutatha maphunzirowa?
«Zimakhala zovuta kufotokozera ena chisangalalo. Pali chikhumbo, chiyembekezo, panthawi yachisangalalo, ndipo ndimati mumtima mwanga: "Amayi, khalani kanthawi kochepa, chifukwa ndibwino kukhala nanu!". Kumwetulira kwake, ndikuyang'ana ndi maso ake odzaza ndi chikondi ... Mtendere ndi chisangalalo chomwe ndimamva panthawi ya mapangidwe amatsata tsiku lonse. Ndipo ndikalephera kugona usiku, ndimaganiza: Kodi Mkazi wathu adzandiwuza chiyani tsiku lotsatira? Ndimasanthula chikumbumtima changa ndikuganiza ngati zomwe ndachita zinali zofuna za Ambuye, ndipo ngati Dona wathu adzakhala wosangalala? Chilimbikitso chanu chimandipatsa mtengo wapadera ».
Mayi athu akhala akutumizirani mauthenga kwa zaka zopitilira makumi atatu. Kodi zazikuluzikulu ndi ziti?
«Mtendere, kutembenuka, bwerera kwa Mulungu, pemphero ndi mtima, kulapa ndi kusala kudya, uthenga wachikondi, uthenga wokhululuka, Ukaristia, kuwerenga kolemba kopatulika, uthenga wopatsa chiyembekezo. Dona wathu akufuna kutengera zochita zathu ndikuwapeputsa kuti atithandizenso kuzichita ndikukhala bwino. Akamafotokozera uthenga, amayesetsa kuti amvetsetse. Mauthengawa amapita kudziko lonse lapansi. Dona wathu sananene "okondedwa aku Italiya ... okondedwa aku America ...". Nthawi zonse akamati "Wokondedwa ana anga", chifukwa tonse ndife ofunika kwa iye. Mapeto ake akuti: "Zikomo ana okondedwa, chifukwa mwayankha kuyitana kwanga". Mayi athu akutithokoza ».
Kodi Dona Wathu akunena kuti tiyenera kulandira mauthenga ake "ndi mtima"?
«Pamodzi ndi uthenga wamtendere, womwe ubwerezedwa kwambiri pazaka zonsezi ndi uthenga wa pemphero ndi mtima. Mauthenga ena onse amachokera pa izi. Popanda pemphero palibe mtendere, sitingathe kuzindikira chimo, sitingathe kukhululuka, sitingathe kukonda. Kupemphera ndi mtima, osati mwamwambo, osatsatira mwambo, osayang'ana pa wotchi ... Dona wathu akufuna kuti tidzipereke nthawi kwa Mulungu.Kupemphera ndi moyo wathu wonse kuti tikumane ndi Yesu, kukambirana, kupumula . Chifukwa chake titha kukhala odzala ndi chisangalalo ndi mtendere, opanda mitolo mu mtima ».
Kodi akukupemphani kuti mupemphere motani?
«Mayi athu akufuna kuti tizipemphera kwa maola atatu tsiku lililonse. Anthu akamva pempholi amachita mantha. Koma akamalankhula za mapemphero a maola atatu samangotanthauza kuwerenga mobwerezabwereza, komanso kuwerenga kwa malembo opatulika, Misa, kupembedza kwa Sacrament Yodalitsika komanso kugawana nawo Mawu a Mulungu.Ndimawonjezera ntchito zachifundo ndi thandizo kenako. Ndikukumbukira kuti zaka zapitazo m'modzi wokayikira wokayikira wa ku Italy adafika pafupi maora atatu akupemphera. Tinacheza pang'ono. Chaka chotsatira adabwerako: "Kodi Dona Wathuyu nthawi zonse amafunsa mapemphero atatu?". Ndinayankha kuti: “Uchedwa. Tsopano akufuna tizipemphera maola 24. ""
Ndiye kuti, Mayi Wathu amafunsa kuti asinthe mtima.
"Ndendende. Kutsegula mtima ndi pulogalamu ya moyo wathu, monga kutembenuka kwathu. Sindinasinthe mwadzidzidzi: Kusintha kwanga ndi njira ya kumoyo. Dona wathu amatembenukira kwa ine ndi banja langa ndipo amatithandiza chifukwa akufuna banja langa kuti likhale chitsanzo kwa ena »