Dona Wathu wa Medjugorje: banja lililonse limapemphera

Msonkhano uwu ndi inu, achinyamata a Pescara, unaganiziridwa ngati msonkhano ndi amasomphenya. Izi ndi zosiyana. Ndiye chonde landirani ngati mphatso ndiyeno musanene kuti: choyamba mwachita izi, bwanji osateronso kwa ife?

Tsopano iwo ali mu kachisi; Ndithu, wawaona; samafuna zithunzi. Tikufuna kulankhula nawo mu mpingo.

Iwo ndi Vicka, Ivan, Mirjana ndi Marija. Ndinalankhula ndi Ivanka amene anandiuza kuti: «Ndatopa kwambiri. Ndagwira ntchito kwambiri ".

Tiyeni tiyambe ndi Vicka, wamkulu kwambiri.

Vicka: "Ndikupatsani moni nonse, makamaka achinyamata awa ochokera ku Pescara, m'dzina langa ndi m'dzina la amasomphenya ena onse". P .. Slavko: Funso langa kwa Vicka ndilakuti: "Kodi kukumana kokongola kwambiri ndi Dona Wathu kunali kotani"? Vicka: "Ndaganiza kwakanthawi kuti ndisankhe kukumana kokongola kwambiri ndi Our Lady, koma sindingathe kusankha kukumana. Kukumana kulikonse ndi Madonna ndikokongola kwambiri ».

P. Slavko: "Kodi kukongola kumeneku kumaphatikizapo chiyani"?

Vicka: «Chomwe chili chokongola pamisonkhano yathu ndi chikondi changa kwa Mayi Wathu ndi Mayi Wathu kwa ine. Nthawi zonse timayamba msonkhano wathu ndi pemphero ndikumaliza ndi pemphero ».

P. Slavko: "Kodi mukufuna kunena chiyani tsopano za zomwe mwakumana nazo kwa onse omwe ali pano"?

Vicka: "Ndikufuna kunena, makamaka kwa achinyamata:" Zindikirani kuti dziko lapansi likupita ndipo chinthu chokhacho chomwe chatsalira ndicho kukonda Ambuye ". Ndikudziwa kuti nonse mwafika, chifukwa mumavomereza ndi kukhulupirira mizimu. Ndikukuwuzani kuti mauthenga onse omwe Mayi Wathu amapereka, amakupatsiraninso. Ndikufuna ulendowu usakhale wopanda ntchito, wobala zipatso. Ndikufuna kuti mukhale ndi moyo mauthenga onsewa ndi mtima wanu: pokhapo mudzatha kudziwa chikondi cha Ambuye ".

P. Slavko: «Tsopano Mirjana. Mukudziwa kuti Mirjana sakhalanso ndi ziwonetsero zatsiku ndi tsiku kuyambira Khrisimasi 1982. Ali nazo pa tsiku lake lobadwa komanso nthawi zina mwapadera. Iye anachokera ku Sarajevo ndipo anavomera kuchita zimenezi. Mirjana ufuna kunena chiyani kwa amwendamnjira awa "?

Mirjana: "Ndikufuna makamaka kuitanira achinyamata ku mapemphero, kusala kudya, chikhulupiriro, chifukwa izi ndi zinthu zomwe Dona Wathu amafuna kwambiri".

P. Slavko: "Chofunika kwambiri pa moyo wanu ndi chiyani"?

Mirjana: “Chinthu chofunika kwambiri kwa ine n’chakuti kudzera m’mawonekedwe, ndadziŵa Mulungu ndi chikondi chake. Mulungu, chikondi cha Mulungu, Mayi Wathu, salinso patali, ali pafupi, sichinthu chachilendonso. Ndimakhala tsiku ndi tsiku ndikuwamva ngati Atate, ngati Amayi ».

Fr Slavko: "Munamva bwanji pamene Mayi Wathu anakuuzani kuti: sitidzawonana tsiku lililonse"?

Mirjana: "Zowopsa. Chinthu chimodzi chomwe chinanditonthoza ndi ichi: Mayi Wathu atandiuza kuti aziwonekera kwa ine kamodzi pachaka ».

P. Slavko: "Ndikudziwa kuti mwakhala mukuvutika maganizo. Kodi chinakuthandizani n’chiyani kuti mutuluke m’mavuto komanso kuvutika maganizo kumeneku”?

Mirjana: "Pemphero, chifukwa m'pemphero ndakhala ndikumva kuti Mayi Wathu ali pafupi ndi ine. Ndidatha kulankhula naye ndipo adayankha mafunso anga onse ».

P. Slavko: "Mukudziwa zambiri za zinsinsi: mukutanthauza chiyani"?

Mirjana: "Ndinganene chiyani? Zinsinsi ndi zinsinsi. M'zinsinsi muli zinthu zokongola ndi zina zoipa, koma ndinganene kuti: kupemphera ndi pemphero kumathandiza kwambiri. Ndamva kuti ambiri amaopa zinsinsizi. Ndikunena kuti ichi ndi chizindikiro kuti sitikhulupirira. Tichite mantha chifukwa chiyani tikudziwa kuti Yehova ndiye Atate wathu, Mariya ndi mayi athu? Makolo sangapweteke ana awo. Kenako mantha ndi chizindikiro cha kusakhulupirira”.

P. Slavko: "Kodi mukufuna kuti Ivan anene chiyani kwa achinyamatawa? Kodi zonsezi zitanthauza chiyani pa moyo wanu”?

Ivan: "Chilichonse cha moyo wanga. Kuyambira pa June 24, 1981, zonse zasintha kwa ine. Sindikupeza mawu ofotokozera zonsezi ».

Fr Slavko: "Ndikudziwa kuti mumapemphera, kuti nthawi zambiri mumapita kuphiri kukapemphera. Kodi pemphero limatanthauza chiyani kwa inu”?

Ivan: “Pemphero ndilofunika kwambiri kwa ine. Zonse zomwe ndimavutika nazo, zovuta zonse, nditha kuzithetsa m'pemphero ndipo kudzera m'pemphero ndimakhala bwino. Zimandithandiza kukhala ndi mtendere, chisangalalo ».

Fr Slavko: "Marija, ndi chiyani kwa inu uthenga wabwino kwambiri womwe mwalandira"?

Marija: "Pali mauthenga ambiri omwe Mayi Wathu amapereka. Koma pali uthenga womwe ndimakonda kwambiri. Nthawi ina ndidapemphera ndipo ndidamva kuti Mayi Wathu akufuna kundiuza china chake ndipo ndidapempha uthengawo. Dona wathu adayankha: "Ndikupatsani chikondi changa, kuti mupereke kwa ena" ».

P. Slavko: "N'chifukwa chiyani uwu ndi uthenga wabwino kwambiri kwa inu"?

Marija: “Uthenga umenewu ndi wovuta kwambiri kukhalamo. Kwa munthu amene umamukonda palibe vuto kumukonda, koma kumavuta kukonda komwe kuli zovuta, zokhumudwitsa, mabala. Ndipo ndikufunadi kukonda ndikupambana zina zonse zomwe sizili chikondi nthawi iliyonse "

P. Slavko: "Mumapambana mu chisankho ichi"?

Marija: "Ndimayesetsa nthawi zonse".

P. Slavko: "Kodi mukadali ndi zonena"?

Marija: «Ndikufuna kunena kuti: Chilichonse chimene Mayi Wathu ndi Mulungu amachita kupyolera mwa ife, akufuna kupitiriza kupyolera mwa aliyense wa inu amene muli mu mpingo madzulo ano. Ngati tivomera mauthengawa komanso ngati tiyesetsa kukhala nawo m’mabanja athu, tidzachita chilichonse chimene Yehova watipempha. Medjugorje ndichinthu chapadera, ndipo ife omwe tili pano tiyenera kupitiliza kukhala ndi moyo zomwe Dona Wathu amatiuza ”.

Fr Slavko: "Kodi mumavomereza bwanji ndikulandira mauthenga a Lachinayi"?

Marija: "Nthawi zonse ndimayesetsa kuchita zonse zomwe ndimauza ena m'dzina la Mayi Wathu komanso zomwe ndikufuna kupatsa ena. Dona Wathu amandipatsa mauthenga liwu ndi liwu ndipo pambuyo kuwoneka ndimalemba iwo ».

P. Slavko: "Ndizovuta kulemba pambuyo pa kuuzidwa kwa Dona Wathu"?

Marija: "Ngati zili zovuta ndimapemphera kwa Mayi Wathu kuti andithandize".

Vicka: «Ndikufunabe kunena chinthu chimodzi: Ndimadzivomereza ndekha m'mapemphero ako ndipo ndikulonjeza kuti ndikupempherera iwe».

Ivan: "Ndikunena kuti: ife amene tavomereza mauthengawa tiyenera kukhala amithenga a mauthenga onse komanso amithenga a mapemphero, kusala, mtendere".

Fr Slavko: "Ivan akulonjezanso kukupemphererani".

Mirjana: "Ndikufuna kunena kuti Mayi Wathu sanatisankhe chifukwa tinali abwino kwambiri, ngakhale pakati pa abwino kwambiri. Pempherani, fulumirani, khalani ndi mauthenga ake; mwinanso ena a inu adzakhala ndi mwayi wakumva ndi kuwona”.

Fr Slavko: "Ndadzitonthoza ndekha ndi onse amwendamnjira nthawi zambiri: ngati Dona Wathu sanasankhe zabwino kwambiri, tonsefe tili ndi mwayi: zabwino zokhazokha sizingathe". Vicka akuwonjezera kuti: "Ndi mtima amawona kale".

Marija: “Mulungu anandipatsa mphatso yolankhula Chitaliyana. Mwanjira imeneyi timatsegulanso mitima yathu kuti titenge mauthenga omwe Mayi Wathu amapereka kwa ife. Mawu anga otsiriza ndi awa: tiyeni tikhale moyo zomwe Mayi Wathu akunena: "Tiyeni tipemphere, tipemphere, tipemphere" ».

Tsopano mawu ofunika kwambiri kwa inu. Ndikukuuzani: Inenso ndili ndi mwayi wapadera. Ndimakumana ndi amasomphenya pamene ndiyenera kutero, pamene ndikufuna, ndimatha kuwawona nthawi zonse, koma ndikukuuzani: kukumana ndi amasomphenya sikukhala bwino. Zikanakhala choncho ndikadakhala bwino. Ndiko kuti, powayang'ana, powamvetsera, simukhala bwino, koma mumalandira chinthu chimodzi - zomwe okonzawo ankafuna - kukumana ndi mboni zomwe nthawi zonse zimakhala zokonzeka kupereka umboni. Ndiye mumapeza chidwi chapadera. Ngati mwalandira chikhumbo ichi kuti mukhale ndi moyo, ndi zabwino, ngakhale mutakhala kuti mukufinya pang'ono, ngakhale nditathamangitsa a Slovenes mu mpingo ... Tsopano ndikuthamangitsani inunso ..., koma kale kukusiyani ndikuuzani uthenga wadzulo ndi mawu ochepa .

«Okondedwa ana, chonde yambani kusintha moyo wanu m'banja. Banja likhale duwa logwirizana limene ndifuna kupereka kwa Yesu.Ana okondedwa, banja lililonse likhale lachangu pakupemphera. Ndikufuna tsiku lina kudzawona zipatso m'banjamo. Ndi njira iyi yokha yomwe ndidzakupatsani inu nonse ngati mapeyala kwa Yesu pakukwaniritsidwa kwa dongosolo la Mulungu”.

Mu uthenga womaliza, Mayi Wathu adati: "Yambani kupemphera, yambani kusintha m'mapemphero". Iye adati kwa ife panokha, sananene kuti: tcherani khutu ku zomwe zimachitika m'mabanja anu.

Tsopano, pita patsogolo: funsani banja lonse kuti mukhale ogwirizana, mtendere, chikondi, chiyanjanitso, pemphero.

Wina akuganiza kuti: mwina Mayi Wathu sakudziwa momwe zinthu zilili m'banja langa. Mwinamwake makolo ena amaganiza kuti: Mkazi wathu sakadanena zimenezi ngati akanadziŵa mmene achichepere anga amawonera wailesi yakanema ndi mmene sitingathe kulankhula nawo pamene iwo ali pamaso pake!

Koma Dona Wathu amadziwa chilichonse ndipo amadziwa kuti mutha kukhala mabanja ogwirizana m'mapemphero. Ntchito imeneyi mu pemphero ndi ntchito yakunja ndi ya mkati. Ndafotokoza kambirimbiri tanthauzo lake. Tsopano ndimalankhula za ntchito zakunja zokha. Ndikufunsani inu wamng’ono kapena wamkulu, ndani angayerekeze kunena madzulo m’banjamo kuti: “Tsopano tiyeni tipemphere”? Ndani angayerekeze kunena kuti: “Ndime iyi ya Uthenga Wabwino ndi ya banja lathu, monga watiuzira ife”? Ndani angayerekeze kunena kuti: “Tsopano zokwanira ndi televizioni, ndi lamya: tsopano tiyeni tipemphere”?

Wina wake ayenera kukhala pamenepo. Ndikudziwa kuti pali achinyamata opitilira mazana anayi kuno. Akulu amakonda kunena kuti: “Achinyamata athu safuna kupemphera. Tikhoza bwanji"?

Sindinapeze maphikidwe, koma ndipereka maadiresi ndipo ndidzati: "Pitani ku banja ili ndikufunseni momwe amachitira, chifukwa pali mmodzi mwa achinyamata omwe adapita ku Medjugorje". Mukamukhumudwitsa pali zambiri zoti muchite nazo manyazi. Tsopano ndani angayerekeze kupereka adilesi?

Komabe ndikutanthauza: zili ndi ine ndi inu. Mwina ndinu mabanja mazana asanu pano. Ngati m'mabanja mazana asanu wina angayerekeze kunena kuti: "Tsopano tiyeni tipemphere", mabanja mazana asanu adzapemphera.

Ndipo izi ndi zomwe Dona Wathu akufuna: amapereka mzimu wonse wa pemphero, kusala kudya, kuyanjanitsa, chikondi. Osati chifukwa Medjugorje amafunikira pemphero, koma chifukwa inu, mabanja anu, mukulifuna. Medjugorje ndi chikoka.

Ngati Dona Wathu ati: "Ndikufuna kuti zipatso ziwoneke", ndingawonjezere chiyani? Ingobwerezani zomwe Dona Wathu akufuna. Koma zipatso izi si za Mayi Wathu, koma za inu. Ngati wina ali wokonzeka panthawi ino kuti ayanjanitsidwe, kulemekeza winayo, ali kale ndi zipatso. Ngati tilemekezana wina ndi mzake, ngati tikondana wina ndi mzake, tili ndi ubwino ndipo Dona Wathu akufuna kutipatsa ife tonse kwa Yesu ngati maluwa, ngati maluwa ogwirizana.

Funso loyamba la Misa. Tsopano dzifunseni nokha amene ali duwa la banja lanu, ngati pali pamakhala kuti salinso kukongola, ngati mwina tchimo lina lawononga kukongola kwa duwa, ichi mgwirizano. Usikuuno mutha kuchita zonse bwino ndikuyambanso.

Mwina wina amachokera m’banja limene ali wotsimikiza kuti makolo awo kapena achinyamata sakufuna. Palibe kanthu. Ngati mupanga gawo lanu la duwa m'banja moyenera, duwalo lidzakhala lokongola pang'ono. Ngakhale petal ngati ilipo, ngati ikuphuka, ngati ili ndi mitundu yambiri, imathandiza kuti duwa lonse likhale bwino.

Ndani pakati pathu amene angayerekeze kukhala woputa mtima, ndiye kuti, osadikira ena akayamba? Yesu sanadikire. Akadatero, akadati: “Ine ndikudikira kutembenuka mtima kwako, kenako ndikufera”, sakadamwalira. Iye anachita zosiyana: anayamba mopanda malire.

Ngati petal ya maluwa a m'banja mwanu imayamba mopanda malire, duwalo limakhala logwirizana. Ndife amuna, ndife ofooka, koma ngati tikonda, ngati tiphunziranso kuleza mtima ndi kusatopa kwa Mkazi Wathu, duwa lidzaphuka ndipo tsiku lina, pakukwaniritsidwa kwa dongosolo la Mulungu, tidzatha kukhala atsopano ndi Mkazi Wathu. tidzatha kudzipereka tokha kwa Yesu.

Zikuwoneka kwa ine kuti mwalandira zikhumbo zambiri, mwina zambiri. Ngati mwatenga lingaliro limodzi kapena lina, sinkhasinkha, chitani monga momwe Mayi Wathu amachitira. Mlalikiyo ananena kuti anasunga mawuwo mumtima mwake ndi kuwasinkhasinkha. Chitaninso chimodzimodzi.

Dona Wathu adalandira mawuwa ndikusunga mumtima mwake ngati chuma chomwe amasinkha-sinkha. Mukachita izi muli ndi mwayi wambiri woti mukwaniritse moyo wanu, makamaka achinyamata.

Mapulani a Mulungu awa sali pa nyenyezi kapena kuseri kwa nyenyezi kapena kuseri kwa mpingo. Ayi, kuzindikira kwa dongosolo la Ambuye kuli mwa inu, panokha, osati kunja kwa inu.

Gwero: P. Slavko Barbaric - May 2, 1986