Intatheli yamaTshayina yamaKatolika esekuthinjweni: Amakholwa amaTshayina afuna uncedo!

Intatheli, impempe kunye nembacu kwezopolitiko ezivela e-China zigxeke unobhala welizwe laseVatican, u-Cardinal Pietro Parolin, ngenxa yento efunwa ngulo mmeli wase-China sisimo sokudelela intshutshiso e China. Intatheli yase-China u-Dalù uphendule kudliwanondlebe no-Cardinal Parolin kunye nephephandaba lase-Itali La Stampa, olwenziwe kwiintsuku ngaphambi kokuba iVatican ivuselele isivumelwano sayo ne China kwinyanga ephelileyo.

UDalù wathetha neRejista ngo-Okthobha 27, uSuku lwaMazwe ngaMazwe lweNkululeko yeNkolo. Kudliwanondlebe waqaqambisa umbuzo wentatheli yaseVatican uLa Stampa kuKhadinali Parolin ngokuqhubeka kwentshutshiso yamaKrestu e-China, ngaphandle kwesivumelwano se-Sino-Vatican esatyikitywa ngo-2018, apho uNobhala kaRhulumente wase-Vatican waphendula wathi, “kodwa iintshutshiso, iintshutshiso… Kufuneka usebenzise amagama ngokuchanekileyo. "

Amagama ekhadinali amothusile uDalù, owafumana iwonga lokuba yimbacu e-Itali ngo-2019 emva komceli mngeni wakhe kwi-Chinese Community Party, wamenza waqukumbela ngelithi: “Amagqabantshintshi ka Khadinali Parolin asengqiqweni. Igama "intshutshiso" alichanekanga okanye lomelele ngokwaneleyo ukuchaza imeko yangoku. Ewe, abasemagunyeni beCCP bayakuqonda ukuba ukutshutshiswa kweenkolo kufuna iindlela ezintsha nezintsha ukunqanda ukusabela okunamandla okuvela ngaphandle ".

Ekuqaleni wayevela eShanghai, uDalù wayekhe waba yenye yeentatheli ezaziwa kakhulu kwimithombo yeendaba zaseTshayina ngaphambi kwengxelo yakhe ye-1995 yokuveza inyani malunga nokubulawa kwabantu baseTiananmen Square kubaphulaphuli bakanomathotholo, nangona urhulumente wase China wazama ukulawula ingxelo ngalo msitho. UDalù waguqukela kubuKatolika kwi-2010, awathi wayonyusa umlo weqela lamaKomanisi e-China. Ke, ngo-2012, emva kokubanjwa kuka-Bishop Ma Daquin we-diocese yase-Shanghai, u-Dalù wasebenzisa amajelo eendaba ezentlalo ukucela ukukhululwa kuka-bhishophu, ekugqibeleni kukhokelela ekubuzweni nasekutshutshisweni kwentatheli.

UDalù wafumana iwonga elisemthethweni lembacu kwezopolitiko e-Italiya ngo-2019. Udliwanondlebe olulandelayo luhlelelwe ukucaciswa kunye nobude.

Injani imeko yeCawa yamaKatolika e-China?

Uyazi, iBandla laseTshayina lahlulwe laba lelaseburhulumenteni nelingaphantsi komhlaba. Icawa esemthethweni ilawulwa ngokupheleleyo liQela lamaKomanisi lase China kwaye kufuneka yamkele ubunkokheli bePatriotic Association, ngelixa icawe yangaphantsi ithathwa njengecawe engekho mthethweni yiCCP kuba ubishophu wayo umiselwe ngqo yiVatican. Ayikokuhlekisa oko? Icawe yasekwa nguYesu, hayi i-CCP. U-Yesu unike uPetros isitshixo sobukumkani, hayi i-Chinese Patriotic Association.

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Intatheli yaseTshayina uDalù
UDalù intatheli yaseTshayina ithinjiwe (Ifoto: ifoto ngoncedo)

IVatican isandula ukuvuselela isivumelwano kunye ne China, iinkcukacha zazo ezingekaziswa esidlangalaleni. Athini amava akho obuqu?

Umfundisi owayendibhaptiza wandimema ukuba ndibengumphathi wesebe leendaba leCawe ukusasaza iindaba kunye nevangeli leCawe kusetyenziswa amajelo onxibelelwano. Ukusukela i-China ivimbe i-intanethi, amakholwa asekhaya akakwazi ukufikelela kwiwebhusayithi yeVictoria News. Yonke imihla bendixelela iindaba ezivela kwiNdawo eNgcwele kunye neentetho zikaPopu.Bendifana nejoni ngaphambili.

Ndafumana ithuba lokudibana nabefundisi abaninzi, kuquka no-Father Ma Daqin, owathi kamva waba ngubhishophu eShanghai. Ngomhla wokumiselwa kwakhe njengo-bhishophu, u-Bishop Ma wayeka ukunxulumana ne-CCP's "Patriotic Church" kwaye wahlukaniswa nathi ngoko nangoko yi-Patriotic Association.

Kamva safumanisa ukuba wayephoqelelwe ukuba athathe inxaxheba kwinkqubo enzulu yokuqeqesha abantu ngamaKomanisi. Ngomnqweno wobuntwana, ndibize ukukhululwa kukaBhishophu wethu Ma Daqin kumajelo onxibelelwano yonke imihla. Indlela endiziphethe ngayo ifumene impendulo evela kumakholwa, kodwa itsala umdla woMbutho wePatriotic. Bacele amapolisa okhuseleko lwangaphakathi ukuba andoyikise mna nosapho lwam. Ndiye ndancinwa ngokuqatha kuba ndophule uqeqesho lwe-CCP. Bandinyanzela ukuba ndiyeke ukufuna ukuba u-Bishop Ma akhululwe kumaqonga onxibelelwano ndityikitye uvumo apho ndavuma ukuba izenzo zam zazingalunganga kwaye ndiyazisola.

Esi yayisisiqwengana nje esincinci. Ndandihlala ngokwazi ngokusoloko ndibekwe esweni ngokusondela kwam eCaweni kwaye izoyikiso kum nakwintsapho yam zazixhaphakile. Imibuzo yayinzima kakhulu kwaye ingqondo yam yasebenza kakhulu ukususa ezo nkumbulo.

Ngentsasa kaJuni 29, 2019, malunga neeyure ezilithoba emva kokuba bendisandula ukupapasha iinkcukacha zikaKhadinali Parolin's "Isikhokelo esingcwele sabefundisi kuBhaliso lwabefundisi baseTshayina" kwi-app yaseTshayina, "WeChat" iqonga, ngequbuliso ndafumana umnxeba ovela Iofisi yezenkolo yaseShanghai. Bandiyalele ukuba ndicime ngokukhawuleza uxwebhu lwe-Holy See "Isikhokelo sabefundisi" kwiqonga le-WeChat, kungenjalo baya kwenza ngokuchasene nam.

Ithoni yendoda emnxebeni ibinamandla kakhulu kwaye isoyikisa. Olu xwebhu "Isikhokelo sabefundisi" luxwebhu lokuqala olukhutshwe yi-Holy See kwicawa esemthethweni yaseTshayina emva kokutyikitya isivumelwano semfihlo ne China. Kungenxa yezi zenzo kuye kwafuneka ndilishiye ilizwe lam.

UDalù, ikhondo lomsebenzi wakho njengomsasazi othandwayo eShanghai wanqanyulwa ngurhulumente kudala. Kuba?

Ewe, ngaphambili kwam umsebenzi wobuntatheli sele wophule umthetho weCCP. Nge-4 kaJuni 1995 yayisisikhumbuzo sesithandathu "seTiananmen Square Massacre". Ndandingumsasazi owaziwayo kwaye ndenza lo msitho esidlangalaleni. Olo lutsha lungenatyala olufuna intando yesininzi kwisikwere esikhulu saseBeijing babulawa ngenxa yeetanki kwaye andinakulibala. Kwafuneka ndithethe inyani kubantu bakuthi ababengazi kwanto ngale ntlekele. Usasazo lwam ngqo lwajongwa yiarhente ye-CCP yokusasaza iindaba. Umboniso wam wamiswa kwangoko. Ikhadi lam lokushicilela lathathwa. Kwanyanzeleka ukuba ndibhale isivumo sokholo, ndivume ukuba amazwi am kunye nezenzo zam eziphosakeleyo zaphula umthetho weqela. Ndaye ndagxothwa kwangoko kwaye ukusukela ngalaa mzuzu ndaqala ukuphila ubomi obubekelwe bucala iminyaka engama-25.

Intatheli yaseTshayina uDalù
UDalù intatheli yaseTshayina ithinjiwe (Ifoto: ifoto ngoncedo)
Ubomi bam basindiswa kuba i-China ibingenakukwazi ukwenza umsasazi weCawa odumileyo anyamalale eShanghai. Babecinga ngokujoyina uMbutho weHlabathi wezoRhwebo kwaye kwafuneka bajongeke njengelizwe eliqhelekileyo. Ukungaziwa kwam kubusindisile ubomi bam kodwa i-CCP indibekele ecaleni ngonaphakade. Ibala lezopolitiko lishicilelwe kwifayile yam. Akukho mntu unobuganga bokundiqesha kuba ndiye ndaba sisoyikiso kwiCCP.

UKhadinali Pietro Parolin wadliwanondlebe noSalvatore Cernuzio de La Stampa, apho wayethetha ngomsebenzi wakhe wokurhweba ngesivumelwano esihlaziyiweyo neCCP. Wabuzwa, phakathi kweminye imibuzo, malunga nokwanda kwentshutshiso yezenkolo kwilizwe, emva kwesivumelwano sokuqala kwi-2018. Ngaba uzifundile iimpendulo zakhe kwaye bakothusa?

Ewe ndandimangalisiwe. Nangona kunjalo, ndazola ndacinga ngayo. Ndicinga ukuba izimvo zikaKhadinali Parolin [ezibonakala ngathi ziyayikhaba intshutshiso e China] zisengqiqweni. Igama "intshutshiso" alichanekanga okanye lomelele ngokwaneleyo ukuchaza imeko yangoku. Ngapha koko, abasemagunyeni beCCP baqondile ukuba intshutshiso yeenkolo ifuna iindlela ezintsha nezintsha zokuthintela ukusabela okunamandla okuvela kwilizwe langaphandle.

Umzekelo, banqumamisa ukudilizwa kweminqamlezo kwaye ngoku umthetho omtsha kukubeka iflegi yesizwe ezicaweni. Icawa ibamba umsitho wokuphakamisa iflegi yonke imihla, kwaye nemifanekiso kaMao Zedong kunye noXi Jinping zibekwe macala omnqamlezo wesibingelelo. Okumangalisayo kukuba, amakholwa amaninzi akachasananga noku kuba akholelwa ukuba luphawu lokubethelelwa kukaYesu-izaphuli-mthetho ezibini zabethelelwa ngasekhohlo nasekunene.

Kufanelekile ukuba sikhankanye ukuba ngoku uMbutho wePatriotic awusavumeli amakholwa afunde "iBhayibhile". Endaweni yoko, baphazamise i "Bhayibhile" ngokufaka ukuba uYesu wayevumile ukuba naye wayengumoni. Abachasananga nababingeleli abashumayela igospile, kodwa bahlala beququzelela ukuhamba okanye ukubalungiselela imisetyenzana yolonwabo kubo: ukutya, ukusela kunye nokupha izipho. Ixesha elingaphezulu, aba bapristi baya konwaba xa benxibelelana neCCP.

U-Bishop Ma Daqin waseShanghai akabonakali ngathi uvalelwe ngoku. I-CCP isebenzisa igama elitsha koku: ukufundiswa kwakhona. Vumela ubhishophu aye kwiindawo ezichongiweyo "zoqeqesho" rhoqo kwaye amkele isindululo sikaXi Jinping: ubuKatolika baseTshayina kufuneka buqhutywe ngamaTshayina ngokwawo, akhululekile kwimixokelelwane yabaphambukeli. Xa uBhishophu Ma Daqin efumana "imfundo kwakhona", abanye abefundisi ababesilwa nokuvalelwa kwakhe babedla ngokubizwa ukuba "basele iti" namapolisa amaTshayina. "Ukusela iti" ligama lenkcubeko elisetyenziswa ngoku yiCCP njengesihlonipho kwinto esiya kuhlala sinemibuzo engqwabalala nenobundlobongela. Olu loyiko, oku kusetyenziswa kwenkcubeko yethu yakudala kunye nala maqhinga ziindlela zokungcungcuthekisa. Ngokucacileyo, eyona "ntshutshiso" yayifihliwe ngokupakisha okuhle. Njengomgaqo-siseko wase-China ukwatsho ukuba i-China inenkululeko yokuthetha, inkululeko yenkolo kunye nenkululeko yokubonisa kunye neentlanganiso. Kodwa kuyenzeka emva kokukrazula ukupakishwa, zonke ezi "nkululeko" kufuneka ziphononongwe ngokungqongqo kwaye zijongwe. Ukuba sithi "idemokhrasi yendlela yamaTshayina" yenye yeedemokhrasi, ndicinga ukuba ungayiqamba igama "intshutshiso yendlela yamaTshayina" njengomthetho omtsha.

Ngokusekwe kwezi zityhilelo zintsha, usenako ukusebenzisa igama "intshutshiso"? Ngokucacileyo iba yinto engafanelekanga, njengoko sibona iziko elicwangcisiweyo lokuthotywa mihla le. Liliphi igama elinokusetyenziswa endaweni yalo?

NjengomKatolika waseTshayina, unawo umyalezo kuPapa Francis kunye noKhadinali Parolin?

UPope Francis ubhale nje wathi: "Siliqela elisehlabathini, sonke esikhepheni esinye, apho iingxaki zomntu omnye ziingxaki zomntu wonke" (Fratelli Tutti, 32). Iingxaki zase China yingxaki zehlabathi. Ukugcina iTshayina kuthetha ukonga umhlaba. Ndiyikholwa eliqhelekileyo, andikufanelekelanga ukuthetha noBungcwele baKhe kunye noKhadinali Parolin. Into endinokuyibeka isishwankathelwe ngegama elinye: UNCEDO!

Yintoni eyakutsalela kwiCawe yamaKhatholika ngo-2010, kwaye yintoni ekwenza ugcine ngaphakathi eCaweni njengokuba ubona oko uKhadinali Zen nabanye babekuqhankqalaza njengokungcatsha okunzulu, kwanokubulawa kweCawe e-China?

Kwiminyaka engama-25 yokuhlala kwimiphetho yoluntu, bendicinga ukuba i-China ayitshintshi, ubomi bam abunakutshintshwa. AmaTshayina amaninzi afuna inkululeko kunye nokukhanya, njengam, abajonganga nesiphelo sobomi babo kwiinkampu zoxinaniso ezinkulu. Inzala yawo onke amaTshayina iya kuhlala kwihlabathi elimnyama nelikhohlakeleyo kunangoku. Andizange ndiyifumane indlela yokuphuma ebumnyameni ndade ndadibana noYesu, amazwi akhe andenza ndaziva "ndinganxanwa" kwaye ndingoyiki. Ndiyayiqonda inyani: ekuphela kwendlela yokuphuma ebumnyameni kukuzitshisa. Ewe, iBandla liyimbiza enyibilikayo, elenza amakholwa akholelwe ngokwenyani kwaye enze ngokwamazwi kaYesu amakhandlela akhanyisa umhlaba.

Ndalandela uKhadinali Zen kudala, ixhego elalizimisele ukuzitshisa. Ngapha koko, icawe yangaphantsi komhlaba yaseTshayina ixhaswe, incedisiwe kwaye yanxulunyaniswa nobhishophu uZen ukusukela ekuqaleni ukuza namhlanje. Uyazi kakuhle imeko eyadlulayo neyangoku yeCawa yaseTshayina engaphantsi komhlaba. Kangangexesha elide ebekuchasa ngamandla ukungenelela kweCCP kwimisebenzi yobuvangeli beCawe, kwaye ebekhe wagxeka iTshayina ngokungabikho kwenkululeko yonqulo kwizihlandlo ezahlukeneyo. Uye wabhenela nakwabaxhasi besiganeko seTiananmen Square kunye nentshukumo yedemokhrasi yaseHong Kong. Ke ngoko, ndicinga ukuba kufanele ukuba unelungelo lokuthetha, lokumanyelwa, nokunikela ngamava akhe kuPopu ngomzuzu obuthathaka. Lixabiso elixabisekileyo kwanakwabo bangacingi njengaye.

Uyimbacu kwezopolitiko- kwenzeke njani oku?

Ukuba ibingenguye uThixo ukuba avele uLuca Antonietti, ngendandigxothwe kwinyanga nje ezintathu. Ukuba bekungengenxa yalonto, ngendikule ntolongo yaseTshayina namhlanje.

U-Luca Antonietti akalilo igqwetha elaziwayo e-Itali, kodwa ungumKatolika ozinikeleyo. Ngosuku olulandelayo, emva kokufika apha, ndaya ecaweni ukuya kwindibano yemisa. Akukho mntu waseTshayina owakhe wavela kule lali incinci ngaphambili. Umhlobo kaLuca wamxelela olu lwazi kwaye ndadibana naye kwakamsinya emva kwemini, ngoSeptemba 2019. Sasinxibelelana kuphela ngesoftware yokuguqulela ifowuni.

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UDalù intatheli yaseTshayina ithinjiwe (Ifoto: ifoto ngoncedo)
Emva kokuva ngamava am, wagqiba kwelokuba andinike uncedo lwezomthetho. Wabeka lonke ishishini lakhe ecaleni kwaye walungisa onke amaxwebhu asemthethweni ayimfuneko ukufaka isicelo sokukhuselwa kwezopolitiko, esebenza kum yonke imihla. Kwangelo xesha wathatha ixesha lokundwendwela i-Shrine of Merciful Love eCollevalenza. Eyona nto indishukumisileyo ngakumbi kukuba ikwabonelela ngendawo yokuhlala. Ngoku ndililungu losapho lwase-Italiya. Igqwetha lam labeka ubomi balo kunye nentsapho yakhe emngciphekweni ukuze lindincede. Kuya kufuneka uqonde ukuba ukusondela kum, nakwilizwe elifana ne-Itali, kusengumnqamlezo onzima ukuba uwuthwale: Ndiphantsi kweliso.

Ndandifana nendoda eyenzakeleyo eyawa ecaleni kwendlela yaza yadibana nomSamariya onobubele. Ukususela ngelo xesha, ndaqala ubomi obutsha. Ndiyabunandipha ubomi amaTshayina anelungelo lokubuxhamla: umoya omtsha, ukutya okukhuselekileyo nokunempilo kunye neenkwenkwezi esibhakabhakeni ebusuku. Okubaluleke ngakumbi, ndinobuncwane urhulumente wamaTshayina abulibaleyo: isidima.

Ngaba uzijonga njengompempe? Kutheni uphuma ngoku, kwaye myalezo mni onawo?

Ndihlala ndingumntu onolwazi. Ngo-1968, xa ndandineminyaka emihlanu, kwaqhambuka iMvukelo yeNkcubeko eChina. Ndabona utata ebethwa eqongeni. Kwakukho imiboniso eliqela yomzabalazo veki nganye. Ndifumanise ukuba iipowusta zerali ezitsha zihlala zibhalwa emnyango. Ngenye imini ndakrazula ipowusta kwaye ngaloo mini kwakungekho mntu wayeye kulo mboniso.

Ngo-1970, xa ndandikwibanga lokuqala, ndachazwa ngoogxa endandifunda nabo ndaza ndabuzwa sisikolo kuba ngempazamo ndalahla umfanekiso osuka kwincwadi ethi "Quotes by Mao Zedong" phantsi. Xa ndandifunda kwisikolo samabanga aphakathi, ndaqala ngokufihlakeleyo ukumamela unomathotholo waseTaiwan onxamnye nomthetho wesizwe. Ngo-1983, xa ndandisekholejini, ndafuna ukuba kufundiswe ngohlaziyo ngokusasaza i-campus kwaye ndisohlwaywa sisikolo. Ndithintelwe ekuveliseni ukongezwa okongezelelekileyo kwaye ndibhalelwe ukuhlolwa kamva. NgoMeyi 8, 1995, ndazisola ngokusweleka kweyona mvumi idumileyo eTaiwan uTeresa Teng kunomathotholo ndaza ndohlwaywa ngunomathotholo. Kwinyanga kamva, nge-4 kaJuni, ndaphinda ndawophula umthetho wokuthintela kwaye ndikhumbuza abaphulaphuli ukuba bangalibali "ukubulawa kwabantu baseTiananmen" kunomathotholo.

Nge-7 kaJulayi ka-2012, emva kokubanjwa kuka-Bishop Ma weDayosisi yaseShanghai, ndaye ndangcungcuthekiswa kwaye ndincinwa ngamapolisa yonke imihla xa ndicela ukukhululwa kuka-Bishop Ma kumnatha wonxibelelwano. Nge-Agasti ka-2018, ngaphambi kokuvulwa kweeOlimpiki zaseBeijing, ndaququzelela imisebenzi yokhuseleko lwamalungelo oluntu kwindawo endihlala kuyo. Isikhululo sikanomathotholo saseTaiwan "Ilizwi leThemba" sidlan 'indlebe nam. Ndabekw 'esweni ngamapolisa ndaza ndabuyiselwa kwisikhululo samapolisa. Akwanelanga?

Ngoku ndibhala incwadi. Ndifuna ukuxelela umhlaba inyani malunga ne China: I-China, phantsi kweCCP, ibe yinkampu yoxinaniso engabonakaliyo. AmaTshayina enziwa amakhoboka iminyaka engama-70.

Liliphi ithemba onalo ngomsebenzi wakho wexesha elizayo eYurophu e-China? Banganceda njani abantu?

Ndingathanda ukunceda abantu abakhululekileyo ukuba baqonde ukuba ubuzwilakhe bobuKomanisi bucinga njani kwaye buthule kangakanani ukukhohlisa umhlaba wonke. Umbutho wamaKomanisi wase China uyayazi iNtshona ngokugqibeleleyo. Nangona kunjalo, awazi okuninzi malunga namandla olawulo lwaseTshayina. Kananjalo ndingathanda ukubuyela kwirediyo, njengomsasazi, ukuba ndithethe namaTshayina ngoYesu.Yiphupha elihle kwaye ndiyathemba ukuba umntu angandinceda ndipapashe iimemori zam ukujonga kwikamva ngokwenyani nethemba.

Eli lixesha lenyaniso. Ndisasaza umbono wam e-China kwimithombo yeendaba zentlalo yonke imihla. Ndiyathemba ukuba umhlaba uyavuka kungekudala. Uninzi lwabantu "abalungileyo" baya kuyiphendula le kholi. Andisoze ndinikezele.