Umbono u-Ivan waseMedjugorje ukuxelela imiyalezo ephambili yeNenekazi lethu

UTATA LIVIO: Namhlanje sinobabalo lokuba nombono u-Ivan kunye nathi ukuze asixelele ngamava amakhulu ahlala iminyaka eyi-31 kwaye sinomhlobo wakhe uKrizan oya kuba ngumguquleli. Siza kuba nencoko enokusinceda siyiqonde ngcono imiyalezo yeNkosikazi yethu. Siyabulela, Ivan, kwaye ndingathanda ukuba usichazele ukuba injani na imbonakalo yeNenekazi lethu, njengoko ubunayo kwezi ntsuku.

U-IVAN: Makabongwe uYesu Kristu! UVicka, uMarja kunye nam sidibana neNenekazi Lethu yonke imihla. Sizilungiselela ngomthandazo weRosari eNgcwele nge-18, yonke imihla, sithandaza kunye nabo bonke abantu abathatha inxaxheba, kwi-Chapel ye-Holy Rosary. Njengoko ixesha lisondela, i-7 ukuya kwi-20, ndiziva ngakumbi ubukho beNkosikazi yethu entliziyweni yam. Umzuzu endiguqa ngawo phambi kwesibingelelo kuxa uMama wethu waseZulwini efika. Uphawu lokuqala lokufika kweMadonna kukukhanya; emva koku kukhanya, iMadonna iza. Akufani nokukhanya esikubona apha emhlabeni: oku kukukhanya okuvela eZulwini, iqhekeza leZulu liza kuthi. Xa kanye efika uMakazi Wethu andisaboni kwanto phambi kwam okanye ecaleni kwam: Ndimbona kuphela! Ngelo xesha andiziva kwandawo okanye ixesha. Kwaphezolo iNenekazi lethu lifike livuya kakhulu kwaye livuya kwaye labulisa wonke umntu ngombuliso wakhe wesiqhelo kamama "Makabongwe uYesu bantwana bam abathandekayo!". Ngandlel’ ithile wathandaza ezolule izandla zakhe phezu kwabagulayo ababekhona eChapel. Kumbono ngamnye, uMadonna uthandaza ephakamise izandla zakhe phezu kwababingeleli abakhoyo; usoloko esisikelela sonke ngentsikelelo yakhe yobunina kwaye kananjalo esikelele zonke izinto ezingcwele esizizele intsikelelo. Kuwo wonke umboniso, ndihlala ndicebisa bonke abantu, iimfuno kunye neenjongo zomntu wonke. Kutshanje, kwaphezolo, iNenekazi lethu lithandazela ubungcwele kwiintsapho. Hlala uthandaza ngolwimi lwakhe lwesiAramiki. Emva koko, incoko yangasese isoloko iqhubeka phakathi kwethu sobabini. Emva koko iNenekazi lethu liyaqhubeka nokuthandazela bonke abo bakhoyo kwiChapel; emva koko, ngomthandazo uyemka ngomqondiso woKhanya kunye noMnqamlezo kunye nombuliso othi "Hambani ngoxolo, bantwana bam abaziintanda!". Kunzima kakhulu ukuchaza ngamagama ukuba kunjani ukudibana neNenekazi lethu. Ukudibana neNenekazi lethu ngokwenene yingxoxo phakathi kwethu sobabini. Ndiyavuma ukuba kuzo zonke iintlanganiso zemihla ngemihla iNenekazi lethu lithetha nam, ingcinga entle kangangokuba ndingaphila kweli gama kwiiyure ezingama-24 ezizayo. Yile nto ndingayithetha.

TATA LIVIO: Ivan, uziva njani emva kokuvela?

U-IVAN: Kunzima kakhulu ukunxibelelana nabanye ngale mvakalelo ngamazwi… Kunzima ukudlulisela olu vuyo kwabanye. Ndithi kwabo bathatha inxaxheba kwimbonakalo: "Kunzima ukubuyisela kwaye ubuyele kweli hlabathi emva kokudibana neNkosikazi yethu!". Kuhlala kukho umnqweno, ithemba, ngexesha lokubonakala, kwaye ndithi entliziyweni yam: "Mama, hlala ixesha elide, kuba kuhle kakhulu ukuba nawe!". Uncumo lwakhe… jonga amehlo akhe azele luThando… Ndibona iinyembezi zovuyo ezisihla ebusweni beNenekazi Lethu njengoko lisijonge sonke emthandazweni… Lifuna ukusondela kuthi sonke lisiwole !. Uthando lukaMama lukhulu kwaye lukhethekile kakhulu! Ukudlulisela olu Luthando ngamazwi kunzima ngokwenene! Olu xolo, olu vuyo ndiluvayo ngexesha lokuvela kweNkosikazi yethu lundikhapha imini yonke. Kwaye xa ndingakwazi ukulala ebusuku, ndicinga ukuba: inenekazi lethu liza kundixelela ntoni ngosuku olulandelayo? Ndisihlolisisa isazela sam kwaye ndicinga ngento endiyenzileyo emini, ukuba ukuhamba kwam bekukukuthanda kweNkosi, kwaye ingaba iNenekazi Lethu ngokuhlwanje xa ndimbona liya kuvuya? Kwaye ezinye izinto ziyenzeka kum ukulungiselela ukuvela. Uxolo, uvuyo nothando endintywiliselwa kulo ngexesha lokubonakala ngalunye yeyona nto intle kakhulu! Inkuthazo endiyinikwa nguMama indinika intlawulo... Njengoko ndisenza kubahambi ngezonqulo, njengoko ndidlulisela umyalezo kubo, ndingathi ngamandla am obuntu ndedwa andikwazanga ukunyamezela ukuba iNenekazi Lethu alizange lindinike amandla akhethekileyo ngamaxesha onke. usuku.

UTATA LIVIO: Inenekazi lethu lithi "NdinguMama wakho kwaye ndiyakuthanda". Ngaba uziva njengoMama?

IVAN: Ewe, ndiziva ndinguMama. Akukho mazwi achaza le mvakalelo. Ndinaye nomama wasemhlabeni: lo mama wandifundisa ukuya kutsho kwiminyaka eyi-16. Inenekazi lethu landithatha nge-16 kwaye liyandikhokela. Ndingatsho ukuba ndinomama ababini, umama wasemhlabeni kunye noMama waseZulwini. Bobabini ngoomama abahle kwaye banqwenela okulungileyo komntwana wabo, bayamthanda umntwana wabo… Ndingathanda ukunika olu thando kwabanye.

UTATA LIVIO: UIvan, lo Mama ebesithumelela imiyalezo ngaphezu kweminyaka engama-30. Zeziphi ezona ziphambili?

U-IVAN: Ngeli xesha le-31 le minyaka i-Lady yethu isinike imiyalezo emininzi kwaye ngoku akukho xesha laneleyo lokuthetha ngomyalezo ngamnye, kodwa ndingathanda ukugxila ngokukodwa kwezinye ezingundoqo kunye nezisisiseko. UXOLO, IGUQUKO, UKUBUYELA KUTHIXO, THANDAZA NGENTLIZIYO, INGUQUKO NGOKUZILA, UMYALEZO WOTHANDO, UMYALEZO WOKUXOLELA, I-EKARISTI, UKUFUNDA KWESIBHALO ENGCWELE, UMYALEZO WETHEMBA. Uyabona, le miyalezo isanda kubalaseliswa yeyona ibalulekileyo. Kule minyaka ingama-31, iNenekazi lethu lifuna ukuziqhelanisa nathi kancinci kwaye emva koko lizenze lula, lizisondeze ukuze likwazi ukuziqhelanisa bhetele kwaye liphile ngcono. Ndivakalelwa kukuba xa iNenekazi Lethu lisicacisela umyalezo, ungakanani umgudu eliwenzayo kuwo ukuze siwuqonde size siwuphile ngcono! Ndifuna ukugxininisa ukuba imiyalezo yeNkosikazi yethu ibhekiswa kwihlabathi liphela, kuba unguMama wethu sonke. Inenekazi lethu alizange lithi "amaTaliyane athandekayo .. abathandekayo baseMelika ...". Ngalo lonke ixesha kwaye ngalo lonke ixesha, xa ethetha nathi ngomyalezo, uthi "Bantwana bam abathandekayo!", Ngenxa yokuba unguMama, usithanda sonke, kuba sibalulekile kuye. Ndingatsho ukuba lo ngumyalezo wendalo yonke kwaye kungenxa yabantwana bakhe bonke. Ekupheleni komyalezo ngamnye iNenekazi lethu lithi: "Enkosi bantwana abathandekayo, kuba uphendule ubizo lwam". Uyabona, iNenekazi lethu enkosi ...

UTATA LIVIO: Inenekazi lethu lithi kufuneka siyamkele imiyalezo yakhe "ngentliziyo" ...

IVAN: Umyalezo ophindaphindiweyo kule minyaka ingama-31 ngumthandazo ngentliziyo, kunye nomyalezo woxolo. Ngemiyalezo kuphela yokuthandaza ngentliziyo kunye nokuba uxolo, iNenekazi lethu lifuna ukwakha yonke eminye imiyalezo. Ngapha koko, ngaphandle komthandazo akukho luxolo. Ngaphandle komthandazo asinakukwazi nokwamkela isono, asinakuze sizixolele, asinokwazi nokuthanda ... Umthandazo yintliziyo nomphefumlo wokholo lwethu. Ukuthandaza ngentliziyo, ukunga thandazi, ukuthandazela ukungalandeli isiko elinyanzelekileyo; hayi, sukuthandaza ujonge ixesha lokugqiba umthandazo ngokukhawuleza ... Inenekazi lethu lifuna sinikezele ixesha lomthandazo, ukuba sinikezela ixesha kuThixo.Nithandaze ngentliziyo: umama usifundisa ntoni? Kwesi "sikolo" sizifumana sikuyo, kuthetha ngaphezulu kwayo yonke into ethandazwa luthando. Ukuthandaza kunye nobomi bethu bonke kunye nokwenza umthandazo wethu ube yinto yokudibana ephilayo kunye noYesu, incoko kunye noYesu, ukuphumla kunye noYesu; ukuze siphume kulo mthandazo uzaliswe luxolo noxolo, ukukhanya, ngaphandle kobunzima entliziyweni. Kuba umthandazo wasimahla, umthandazo usenza sonwabe. Inenekazi lethu lithi: "Ngamana umthandazo ungonwaba kuwe!". Thandaza ngovuyo. Inenekazi lethu liyazi, uMama uyazi ukuba asifezekanga, kodwa ufuna ukuba singene kwisikolo somthandazo kwaye yonke imihla sifunda kwesi sikolo; njengabantu, njengentsapho, njengabahlali, njengeQela lomthandazo. Esi sisikolo ekufuneka siye kuso kwaye sibe nomonde kakhulu, sizimisele, sinyamezele: sisipho esikhulu ngokwenene esi! Kodwa kufuneka sithandazele esi sipho. Inenekazi lethu lifuna sithandaze iiyure ezi-3 yonke imihla: xa abantu besiva esi sicelo, bothuka kancinci kwaye bandixelela: "Inenekazi lethu linokusicenga njani iiyure ezintathu zomthandazo yonke imihla?" Nguwo lo umnqweno wakhe; nangona kunjalo, xa ethetha malunga neeyure ezintathu zomthandazo akuthethi kuphela umthandazo weRosary, kodwa ngumbuzo wokufunda iSibhalo esiNgcwele, iMisa eNgcwele, kunye noMthendeleko weSakramente esikelelekileyo kwaye nokwabelana nawe ndifuna ukwenza lo msebenzi. Ngale nto, yenza isigqibo ngokulungileyo, ulwe nesono, nxamnye nobubi ". Xa sithetha ngale "nkqubo" yeNenekazi lethu, ndingatsho ukuba andazi nyani ukuba sithini esi sicwangciso. Oku akuthethi ukuba mandingathandazeli ukuba kwenzeke oko. Akusoloko kufuneka sazi yonke into! Kufuneka sithandaze kwaye sithembele kwizicelo zekamva lethu. Ukuba uLwethu unqwenela oku, kufuneka samkele isicelo sakhe.

UTata uLIVio: Inenekazi lethu lithi lizokudala ilizwe elitsha loxolo. Ngaba uya kwenza?

IVAN: Ewe, kodwa kunye nathi sonke, abantwana bakho. Oluxolo luza kuza, kodwa hayi uxolo oluvela emhlabeni ... Uxolo lukaYesu Krestu luzokuza emhlabeni! Kodwa iNenekazi lethu likwathi kwiFatima kwaye lisasimeme ukuba sibeke inyawo lakhe entlokweni kaSathana; Inenekazi lethu liyaqhubeka iminyaka engama-31 apha eMedjugorje ukusibongoza ukuba sibeke unyawo lwethu entlokweni kaSathana kwaye ke lixesha loxolo.

UTATA LIVIO: Emva kohlaselo lweenqaba ezimbini zaseNew York, iNenekazi Lethu lathi uSathana ufuna intiyo, ufuna imfazwe kwaye kukho icebo likaSathana lokutshabalalisa umhlaba esiphila kuwo ...

UIVAN: Manditsho ukuba uSathana ukho namhlanje, kunanini na ngaphambili ehlabathini! Eyona nto simele siyigqamise ngokukhethekileyo namhlanje kukuba uSathana ufuna ukutshabalalisa iintsapho, ufuna ukutshabalalisa abantu abatsha: ulutsha kunye neentsapho zisisiseko sehlabathi elitsha… Ndingathanda ukuthetha enye into: USathana ufuna ukutshabalalisa iBandla ngokwalo. Ukho naphakathi kwababingeleli abangenzi kakuhle; kananjalo ufuna ukutshabalalisa iMithetho yoBubingeleli ezalwayo. Kodwa iNenekazi lethu lihlala lisilumkisa ngaphambi kokuba uSathana enze: Uyasilumkisa ngobukho bakhe. Simele sithandazele oku. Kufuneka siqaqambise ngokukodwa la macandelo abaluleke kakhulu: 1 ° iintsapho kunye nabantu abatsha, 2 ° iCawe kunye neMibizo.

UTATA LIVIO: Inenekazi lethu lakhetha iparishi, leyo yaseMedjugorje, kwaye ngale ndlela wayefuna ukuqalisa ukuhlaziya iCawe iphela.

IVAN: Ngokungathandabuzekiyo konke oku kuluphawu olucacileyo ngakumbi lokuvuselelwa ngokomoya kwehlabathi kunye neentsapho… Enyanisweni, uninzi lwabahambi ngezonqulo beza apha eMedjugorje, batshintsha ubomi babo, batshintsha ubomi babo bomtshato; bambi, emva kweminyaka emininzi bebuyela ekuvumeni izono, baba ngcono baze, babuyele emakhayeni abo, baba ngumqondiso kwimekobume abahlala kuyo. Ngokunxibelelana ngotshintsho lwabo, banceda iCawe yabo, benze amaQela oMthandazo kwaye bameme abanye ukuba batshintshe ubomi babo. Lo ngumbutho ongasoze uyeke… Le milambo yabantu abeza eMedjugorje, sinokuthi "balambile". Umhambi ngezonqulo wokwenyani usoloko engumntu olambileyo okhangela into ethile; umkhenkethi uya kuphumla kwaye uya kwezinye iindawo. Kodwa umhambi wokwenyani ujonge enye into. Kangangeminyaka eyi-31 ndidibana nabantu abavela kuzo zonke iindawo zehlabathi yaye ndivakalelwa kukuba abantu namhlanje balambele uxolo, balambele uthando, balambele uThixo. isiqabu apha; emva koko bahamba ebomini ngolu tshintsho. Njengoko ndisisixhobo seNenekazi Lethu, nabo baya kuba zizixhobo zakhe zokushumayela ivangeli emhlabeni. Kufuneka sonke sithathe inxaxheba kolu vangeli! Kukuvakaliswa kwehlabathi, kosapho kunye nolutsha. Ixesha esiphila kulo lixesha loxanduva olukhulu.

UTATA LIVIO: Akukho nanye kwindawo endiyaziyo abefundisi abaninzi kangaka beza njengaseMedjugorje ...

IVAN: Luphawu lokuba nanku umthombo; abo babingeleli beza kube kanye baya kuza nangamanye amaxesha. Akukho Mbingeleli uzayo eMedjugorje uza ngenxa yokuba enyanzelekile, kodwa ngenxa yokuba uve ubizo oluvela kuThixo entliziyweni yakhe. kuba uThixo kunye neNenekazi lethu bafuna ukunxibelelana naye into: umyalezo obaluleke kakhulu. Uza apha, ufumana umyalezo, uzisa lo myalezo kwaye ngalo myalezo uba sisikhanyiso. Uyisa kwirhamente aze ayityhile kumntu wonke.

UTATA LIVIO: Kulo nyaka uphelileyo, ngakumbi kwimiyalezo eya kuMirjana, iNenekazi lethu licebisa ukuba singambombozeli ngabalusi kwaye sibathandazele. Inenekazi lethu libonakala likhathazeke kakhulu ngabaFundisi beCawe ...

IVAN: Ewe, nakwimiyalezo andinika yona ndiyayiva le nkxalabo yakho, kodwa kwangaxeshanye nomthandazo wabefundisi ufuna ukuzisa ithemba eCaweni. Inenekazi lethu alizange ligxeke aBafundisi, alizange ligxeke iCawe. Uyabathanda ababingeleli ngendlela ethile, uyabathanda “abantwana bakhe abaziintanda” abangababingeleli. Rhoqo ngooLwezine ndidibana nabaFundisi enyangeni kwaye ndiphawula uthando olukhoyo emehlweni kaNenekazi xa ebona aba baFundisi “bakhe” behlanganisene ndawonye. Ndithatha ithuba lolu dliwano-ndlebe kwaye ndithi kubo bonke abathembekileyo: musani ukubagxeka aBafundisi benu kwaye ningajongi iziphoso zabo; masithandazeleni aBafundisi!

UTATA LIVIO: Inenekazi lethu labonisa ababoni ubomi basemva kokufa, oko kukuthi, ukuphuma kobomi bethu, ukusikhumbuza ukuba silapha emhlabeni wabahambi ngezonqulo. Wena Ivan, uthathiwe eZulwini: ungasichazela ngala mava?

IVAN: Okokuqala kufuneka kuthiwe kunzima ukuchaza ngamagama ukuba iZulu linjani. Ngo-1984 nango-1988 ngamaxesha amabini apho uManekazi wethu wandibonisa khona iZulu. Wandixelela ngezolo. Ngaloo mini, ndikhumbula, iNenekazi lethu liyeza, lindibambe ngesandla kwaye ngomzuzu ndifikile eParadesi: indawo engenamida kwintlambo yaseMedjugorje, ngaphandle kwemida, apho kuvakala khona iingoma, kukho iiNgelosi kunye nabantu bahamba kwaye bacula. ; wonke umntu unxiba ilokhwe ezinde. Ukusuka apho ndijonge khona, ndaqaphela ukuba abantu bajonge iminyaka efanayo ... Kunzima ukufumana amagama. Oku nako kuqinisekisa iVangeli: "Iliso alibonanga, indlebe ayiva ...". Kunzima ngenene ukulichaza iZulu! Inenekazi lethu lisikhokelela sonke eZulwini kwaye xa lisiza yonke imihla lisiphathela iqhekeza leZulu. Emva kwakhe uyayibona le Paradesi...

UTATA LIVIO: UPawuli ongcwele uthi wathatyathelwa eZulwini, kodwa akazi nokuba unomzimba na okanye ungenawo na umzimba... Bendingaqondi noba ulibonile iZulu okanye uziswe khona nomzimba wakho...

IVAN:Ndingatsho ndithi uLady wethu wandibamba ngesandla ndasuka kwesa sikhundla ndalibona iZulu,iZulu livuleka,kodwa andikwazi kuthetha nokuba ngomzimba okanye hayi. Yonke into yenzeka ngexesha lokubonakala. Yayiluvuyo olungathethekiyo! Ngakumbi okanye ngaphantsi la mava athathe imizuzu emi-5. Kwelinye lala maxesha mabini amava, iNenekazi lethu landibuza: "Ngaba uyafuna ukuhlala apha?". Ndiyakhumbula, kwakungu-1984 kwaye ndisengumntwana kwaye ndaphendula: "Hayi, ndifuna ukubuyela, kuba andizange ndithethe nto kumama!".

UTATA LIVIO: Ngaba kufanelekile ukuthi, njengoko uVicka watshoyo, ukuba emva kweminyaka engama-31 “sisesekuqaleni kwemibono”?

IVAN: Lo mbuzo malunga nobude bezinto ezibonakalayo ukho nakwi-Bishops, ababingeleli kunye nabathembekileyo. Amaxesha amaninzi abefundisi bayandibuza: “Kutheni behleli ixesha elide kangaka? Kutheni uMama wethu esiza ixesha elide kangaka? Abanye bathi: "INkosikazi yethu iza kwaye isixelela izinto ezifanayo amaxesha amaninzi, akukho nto intsha ...". Abanye abefundisi bathi: "SineBhayibhile, iCawa, iiSakramente ... Iyintoni intsingiselo yokuza kwexesha elide leNkosikazi yethu?". Ewe, sinayo iCawe, iiSakramente, iSibhalo esiNgcwele… Kodwa iNenekazi lethu lisibuza umbuzo: “Kodwa niphila ngazo zonke ezi zinto uzibhale ngasentla? Ngaba uyaziqhelanisa nazo?" Lo ngumbuzo ekufuneka ngamnye wethu awuphendule. Ngaba ngokwenene siphila le nto sinayo? Inenekazi lethu likunye nathi kule nto. Siyazi ukuba kufuneka sithandaze entsatsheni asiyenzi, siyazi ukuba masixolele kwaye asixoleli, siyawazi nomthetho wothando kwaye asinaluthando, siyazi ukuba masiyenze imisebenzi yothando. kwaye asizenzi, siyazi ukuba kukho umyalelo wokuya kwiMisa ngeCawe kwaye asiyi apho, siyazi ukuba i-Confession iyafuneka kuthi, kodwa asiyi apho, siyazi ukuba sitshatile kufuneka siphile. iSakramente yomtshato wethu, asiyiphili, siyazi nokuba kufuneka sihloniphe kwaye sixabise ubomi ukususela ekukhawulweni kwethu de kube sekufeni, kodwa asibuhloneli obu bomi ... Isizathu sokuba uMama wethu abe phakathi kwethu ixesha elide. kungenxa yokuba sineenkani! Asiphili into esiyaziyo! Inene, kule minyaka ingama-31 iNkosazana yethu ayisinikanga myalezo ukhethekileyo: siyayazi yonke into asixelela yona kwimfundiso kunye neSiko leCawa, kodwa asiyiphili: le ngongoma.

UTATA LIVIO: Kodwa iNenekazi lethu lathi imiyalezo sisipho esikhulu kwaye amazwi akhe axabisekile. Mhlawumbi asiyazi le nto ...

U-IVAN: Ndivumelana nawe ngokupheleleyo: asizange siqaphele ngokupheleleyo isipho sobukho bukaMama wethu waseZulwini iminyaka eyi-31! Ingakumbi kweli xesha siphila kulo. Ndingatsho ngokucacileyo ukuba nale parishi ayiqapheli ncam ngesipho esifunyenweyo. Kodwa ndingathanda ukuqaqambisa enye into ebaluleke ngakumbi: Inenekazi lethu lithi ezi zinde zizayo emhlabeni zezokugqibela! Ke ngoko kufuneka sibuqonde ubukhulu kunye nokungxamiseka kwale miyalezo, kunye nobude bezi mbonakalo apha eMedjugorje ...

UTATA LIVIO: Inenekazi lethu likuphathise ukuba ukhokele iGroup ukusukela ngo-1982 apho linike imiyalezo emininzi kulo. Kwakutheni ukuze ukhethe yena, umkhokhele njani kwaye wayefuna ukwenza ntoni ngawe?

IVAN: Kulo nyaka sibhiyozele isikhumbuzo seminyaka engama-30 yeQela lethu: yiJubhili enkulu kuthi. Saqala ngokuzenzekela ngo-1982: saqokelelana, amapolisa asigxotha… emva koko sabona imfuneko yokuhlanganisana rhoqo ngoMvulo, ngooLwezithathu nangooLwezihlanu. Sihlanganisene kufutshane neBlue Cross ehlala inxibelelene nokuzalwa kweQela lethu. Ndifuna ukunixelela, ngokukodwa, ukuba wazalwa njani uMnqamlezo oNtsundu.Ekuqaleni yayiyindawo esasizimele kuyo ukuze sibaleke amapolisa. Umhlobo wam wayefile kwaye komnye umhlobo wabeka umnqamlezo womthi kwaye bathi kum: "Lo mnqamlezo unamakhandlela uyatshisa, kufuneka sibeke into echaseneyo". Senjenjalo sobabini. Utata wayepeyinta isiporo kwaye wayenepeyinti eninzi eluhlaza eshiyekileyo; sasingenanto ngaphandle koko kwaye ke sapeyinta lo mnqamlezo, uxhathisa ngakumbi, ngombala ozuba. Wazalwa njalo ke uMnqamlezo oBlue (Blue Cross) Kodwa ndifuna ukubuyela koko kubalulekile: ekuqaleni sasihlanganisana kwaye sithandaza iiyure ezimbini okanye ezintathu ngexesha ngalinye. Emva koko uLady wethu wathi ufuna ukuza kunye nathi azothandaza. Iintlanganiso zethu zaziqhutywa kuzo zonke iimeko zemozulu: ibora, ikhephu, imvula. Ngamanye amaxesha iNenekazi lethu lalisicela ukuba siye apho ukuze sithandaze ngentsimbi yesibini okanye yesithathu ekuseni kwaye sasizimisele: nantoni na eyayicelwe nguMama wethu ukuba siyenze, sasikulungele ukuyenza ngentliziyo yethu yonke! Kwaye ke iQela lalikhula. Amanye amalungu eQela ayengasenako ukwenza imisebenzi enzima kaMadonna; kwaye ngenxa yoku balishiya iQela. Kodwa abanye abatsha bafikile kwaye okwangoku siliqela labantu abangama-25. Sisahlanganisana; Inenekazi lethu lisinike imiyalezo emininzi kwaye ngale miyalezo iNenekazi lethu liyasikhokela. Ezi ziintlanganiso ezivulekileyo kwaye bonke abanqwenela banokuthatha inxaxheba: kwiBlue Cross nakwiPodbrdo. Ndingathanda ukubethelela ukuba injongo yeliQela, ngokuthatha inxaxheba kunye nemithandazo, kukuqhuba iiprojekthi iNenekazi lethu elinalo ngeParish, aBafundisi kunye nezinye iinjongo zeNkosikazi Yethu. Libizwa ngokuba “liQela likaKumkanikazi woXolo”, emva koko kwazalwa amaQela amaninzi akhuthazwa leli Qela. Babaluleke kakhulu: kwiCawe, kusapho kwaye banika inkuthazo enkulu kuvangelo lwehlabathi liphela.

UTATA LIVIO: Liqela lomthandazo leMadonna. Kwaye uncede uMaNenekazi wethu.

IVAN: Ewe kunjalo!

UTATA LIVIO: Ngaba kufanelekile ukuthi “ixesha leemfihlelo” liya kuba lixesha lovavanyo olukhulu kwiCawa nakwihlabathi?

IVAN: Ewe, ndiyavuma. Ngokumalunga neemfihlo asinakuthetha nto, kodwa ndingatsho nje ukuba ixesha elibaluleke kakhulu liyeza; ngendlela ethile kukho ixesha elibalulekileyo leCawa. Sonke kufuneka sithandazele le njongo.

UTATA LIVIO: Ngaba iya kuba lixesha lokuvavanywa kokholo?

IVAN: Sele ekhona ngoku ...

UTATA LIVIO: Ngaba mhlawumbi kungenxa yesi sizathu ukuba uBenedict XVI, ephefumlelwe nguMama Wethu, ubhengeze "uNyaka woKholo"?

IVAN: UPapa ukhokelwa ngokuthe ngqo ngesandla sikaMadonna; kwaye yena, kwesi sivumelwano kunye naye, ukhokela iBandla lakhe kunye nehlabathi liphela. Namhlanje ekuhleni ndiya kunincoma nonke, ngokukodwa ke ngokunjalo nabagulayo; ngakumbi ndiya kucebisa iRadio Maria ukuba isasaze ezi ndaba zimnandi nezilungileyo! Ndiza kucebisa abantu baseMelika nabaseMelika apho kulo nyaka kuza konyulwa uMongameli omtsha, uMongameli oza kukhokela iMelika kwindlela yoXolo nokuLungile, hayi ngamazwi kuphela, kodwa ngobomi. Kumkanikazi woXolo, sithandazele!

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