U-Ivan waseMedjugorje: Inenekazi lethu likubonisa indlela yokuphila iVangeli

Nithe ​​nina mboniselo zangaphambili aniqhelananga nokudibana. Luluphi unxulumano olwadalwa kamva?
Ewe, abathandathu bethu banabalinganiswa abahlukeneyo, bahluke kakhulu, kwaye ekuqaleni naphambi kokuvela kwiimeko ezininzi asizange sithandane. Phakathi kwezinye izinto, abahlanu kuthi babekwishumi elivisayo, kodwa uJakov wayengumntwana.
Kodwa, ukusukela oko iNenekazi lethu lasidibanisa, eli bali lasimanya kwaye ngokuhamba kwexesha kwasekwa ubudlelwane obusondeleyo phakathi kwethu. Kwaye kuyacaca ukuba simanyene kungekuphela nje kukuba i-Lady yethu ibonakala kuthi, kodwa kuzo zonke iimeko eziphathekayo zobomi bethu; kwaye sabelana ngobunzima bemihla ngemihla obuvelayo ekulawuleni usapho, ekukhuliseni abantwana… Sithetha omnye nomnye ngezinto ezisitsalayo, malunga nezilingo ezisongamelayo, kuba nathi ngamanye amaxesha siyasiva iminxeba yehlabathi; ubuthathaka bethu buhleli kwaye kufuneka kuliwe. Kwaye ukwabelana nabo kusinceda ukuba sivuke, someleze ukholo lwethu, sihlale silula, sixhasane kwaye sibone ngokucacileyo ukuba iNenekazi lethu licela ntoni kuthi. Kuyo nayiphi na imeko, le bond isinye, kuba sihlala abantu abalinganiswa kakhulu ezahlukeneyo omnye komnye, kunye nombono ophawulweyo kunye ongaqhelekanga wehlabathi ekwachaphazela ngakumbi imiba encinane kunye nekhaya.

Ziqhuba njani iintlanganiso phakathi kwenu? Kunqabile ukuba ube nemibono kunye kwaye ubomi bukuse kwiindawo ezikude kakhulu ...
Xa sonke silapha okanye, nangayiphi na imeko, kunye nabo balapha nathi sidibana izihlandlo ezimbalwa ngeveki, kodwa ngamanye amaxesha ngaphantsi kuba ngamnye unosapho lwakhe kunye nezibophelelo ezininzi kubahambi. Kodwa senjenjalo, ngakumbi ngamaxesha okuxinana okukhulu, kwaye sizama ukuhlala sisazi kunye size sicamngce ngoko uMama wethu osezulwini akutshoyo kumntu ngamnye. Kuluncedo kakhulu kuthi ukuxoxa ngeemfundiso zakhe, kuba amehlo amane abona bhetele kunamabini yaye ngaloo ndlela sinokuwaqonda amabali ahlukeneyo.
Kubalulekile, kuba kufuneka siqale sizame ukuqonda kwaye ngaphezu kwako konke ukuba siphile le nto ithethwayo kwaye ibuzwa nguNenekazi wethu. Asikuko ukuba singababoni ukuba kufuneka sizive silungile.

Nangona kunjalo, ningamanqaku okubhekisela, ootitshala bokholo becawa yaseMedjugorje.
Ngamnye kuthi ulandela amaqela omthandazo. Xa ndilapha ndiqala kwakhona ubomi berhamente, kwaye ngokobuqu ndikhokele iqela lomthandazo labantu abangamashumi amathathu elasekwa ngo-1983. Kwiminyaka esixhenxe yokuqala sasidibana ngoMvulo, ngooLwezithathu nangooLwezihlanu, ngoku sidibana kabini kuphela ngeveki. , kwiiyure ezintathu zomthandazo kunye ezibandakanya umzuzu wokuvela. Kwelinye icala, sidumisa uYehova, sithandaza kuye ngokuzenzekelayo, sifunda iZibhalo, sicula yaye sicamngca kunye. Ngamanye amaxesha sizifumana sisemva kweengcango ezivaliweyo kum, ngelixa kwezinye iimeko siqokelelana kwinduli yemiboniso sisamkela bonke abo banqwenela ukuthatha inxaxheba. Kodwa kufuneka kuthathelwe ingqalelo ukuba ke, ebusika, ndiseBoston ...

Medjugorje-Boston: wenza wuphi umsebenzi?
Andinamsebenzi uthile, kuba ixesha elininzi lonyaka ndichitha ndinikela ubungqina kwiidayosisi namarhamente andimemileyo. Ngokomzekelo, kubusika obudluleyo, ndiye ndatyelela phantse iicawa ezilikhulu; kwaye ke ndichitha ixesha lam kwinkonzo yoobhishophu, abefundisi berhamente kunye namaqela omthandazo ayicelayo. Ndiye ndahamba ubude nobubanzi bamazwe amabini aseMelika, kodwa ndiye eOstreliya naseNew Zealand. Njengomthombo womvuzo usapho lwam lunamagumbi athile eMedjugorje ukubamba abahambi ngezonqulo.

Ngaba nawe unomsebenzi othile?
Ndikunye neqela lokuthandazelwa, uthumo oluphathiswe liNkosikazi yethu kukusebenza kunye nabantu abancinci. Ukuthandazela ulutsha kukwathetha ukuba neliso kwiintsapho kunye nababingeleli abancinci kunye nabantu abangcwalisiweyo.

Ulutsha luya phi namhlanje?
Esi sisihloko esihle. Kuya kubakho okuninzi ukuthetha, kodwa kuninzi kakhulu ekufuneka kwenziwe kwaye uthandaze. Isidingo sokuba iNenekazi lethu lithethe kaninzi kwimiyalezo kukubuyisa umthandazo kwiintsapho. Iintsapho ezingcwele ziyafuneka. Uninzi, kwelinye icala, lusondela emtshatweni ngaphandle kokulungiselela iziseko zomanyano lwazo. Ubomi banamhlanje ngokuqinisekileyo abunoncedo, kunye neziphazamiso, ngenxa yoxinzelelo lomsebenzi oncomekayo ongakukhuthazi ukubonakalisa into oyenzayo, apho uya khona, okanye izithembiso ezingeyonyani zokuba kukho ubom ekulula ukufikelela kubo. efanelekileyo kunye nokuthanda izinto eziphathekayo. Zizo zonke ezi zibuko zeelaphu ezingaphandle kosapho eziphelisa ukutshabalalisa uninzi, ukuchitha ubudlelwane.

Ngelishwa, namhlanje iintsapho zifumana iintshaba, kunokuba zincede, nkqu esikolweni kunye nabahlobo babantwana babo, okanye kwindawo yabazali zabasebenzi. Nazi iintshaba ezinolunya zosapho: iziyobisi, utywala, rhoqo amaphephandaba, umabonwakude kunye nemidlalo bhanyabhanya.
Singaba ngamangqina njani kubantu abancinci?
Ukunikela ubungqina kungumsebenzi, kodwa ngokubhekisele kulowo ufuna ukufikelela kuye, ngokubhekisele kwiminyaka yobudala nendlela athetha ngayo, ungubani kwaye uvelaphi. Ngamanye amaxesha siyakhawuleza, kwaye sinyanzelisa isazela, sizibeka esichengeni sokunyanzelisa umbono wethu wezinto kwabanye. Endaweni yoko, kufuneka sifunde ukuba yimizekelo elungileyo kwaye sicebise ukuvuthwa kwethu ngokuthe ngcembe. Kukho ixesha ngaphambi kwesivuno ekufuneka lithathelwe ingqalelo.
Umzekelo undixhalabisa ngokuthe ngqo. Inenekazi lethu lisimema ukuba sithandaze iiyure ezintathu ngosuku: abaninzi bathi "kuninzi", kwaye nabantu abaninzi abancinci, uninzi lwabantwana bethu bacinga njalo. Ndazahlula ngeli xesha phakathi kwentsasa kunye nemini kunye ngokuhlwa-kubandakanya iMass, iRose, iSibhalo esingcwele kunye nokucamngca ngeli xesha-kwaye ndafika kwisigqibo sokuba ayikho kakhulu.
Kodwa abantwana bam banokucinga ngokwahlukileyo, kwaye banokujonga isithsaba seRosary ngumthambo wokuzimisela. Kule meko, ukuba ndifuna ukubasondeza emthandazweni nakuMariya, kuya kufuneka ndibacacisele ukuba yintoni iRosary kwaye, kwangaxeshanye ndibabonise ngobomi bam indlela ebaluleke kwaye esempilweni kum; kodwa ndiya kukuthintela ukumnyanzela kuye, ukulinda umthandazo ukuba ukhule ngaphakathi kwabo. Ke ngoko, ekuqalekeni, ndiya kubanika indlela eyahlukileyo yokuthandaza, siya kuxhomekeka kwezinye iifomula, ezilungele imeko yabo yangoku yokukhula, kwindlela yabo yokuphila nokucinga.
Kuba xa sithandaza, bona kunye nathi, ubungakanani bungabalulekanga, ukuba umgangatho usilela. Umthandazo osemgangathweni udibanisa amalungu osapho, uvelisa ukunamathela okuqinisekileyo elukholweni nakuThixo.
Uninzi lwabantu abancinci baziva bodwa, belahliwe, bengathandwa: unokubanceda njani? Ewe kuyinyani: ingxaki yintsapho egulayo evelisa abantwana abagulayo. Kodwa umbuzo wakho awunakucaciswa kwimigca embalwa: inkwenkwe ethatha iziyobisi yahlukile kwinkwenkwe eye yawa koxinzelelo; okanye inkwenkwe edandathekileyo mhlawumbi ithatha iziyobisi. Umntu ngamnye kufuneka esondelwe ngendlela eyiyo kwaye akukho ndlela iresiphi enye, ngaphandle komthandazo nothando ekufuneka ulufake kwinkonzo yakho kubo.

Ngaba akumangalisi ukuba wena, oye ngokwemvelo - kodwa kwinto esiyibonayo "ubuyiyo" - uneentloni kakhulu, ucelwa ukuba ushumayele abantu abatsha, ngokuqinisekileyo abangabaphulaphuli abalula?
Uqinisekile ukuba kule minyaka ingamashumi amabini, ejonge kwiNenekazi Lethu, ndimamele kwaye ndizama ukwenza oko akucelayo, nditshintshe kakhulu, ndinesibindi ngakumbi; ubungqina bam buye batyeba, banzulu. Nangona kunjalo, iintloni zisekhona kwaye ndiyakuqinisekisa ukuba kulula kakhulu kum, ngenxa yokuzithemba okudalwe ixesha elide, ukujongana neMadonna kunokuba ndijonge kwigumbi elizele ngabantu abatsha, eligcwele abahambi.

Uhamba ngakumbi ukuya eMelika: ngaba unombono wokuba mangaphi amaqela omthandazo aseMedjugorje asekwe apho?
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Ngaba uhamba nosapho lwakho okanye uwedwa?
Wedwa.

Kum kubonakala ngathi ngaphezu kwabanye ababonisi unomsebenzi othile wokuzisa umyalezo weMedjugorje emhlabeni. Kodwa ngaba inenekazi Lethu elikubuzayo?
Ewe, iNenekazi Lethu liyandibuza; Ndithetha kakhulu nani, ndinixelela yonke into, ndihamba nani, kwaye mhlawumbi kuyinyani ukuba ndichitha ixesha elininzi kunabanye lokuhamba, ininzi into efunekayo kum ubupostile. Kubalulekile ukuhamba, ngakumbi ukufikelela kubo bonke aba bantu bangamahlwempu bayaziyo iMedjugorje, kodwa uhambo lwabo lubandakanya ukuzincama okukhulu. Abantu kwiimeko ezininzi sele bephila imiyalezo yaseMedjugorje kwaye bangcono kakhulu kunam.
Inyathelo lokuqala lohambo ngalunye kufuneka lihlale livela kubabingeleli, ayindim ozicelela usuku lomthandazo, njengobungqina. Ndivuya ngakumbi xa abefundisi berhamente bendimema ezicaweni, kuba kwenziwa umoya womthandazo ovumela ukuvakaliswa kwemiyalezo yeNkosikazi Yethu; ngelixa kwiinkomfa ezinezithethi ezininzi kukho umngcipheko wokusasazeka.

Kwangoko ubukhe wathetha ngeebhishophu: ngaba baninzi abathanda iMedjugorje? Ucinga ntoni ngalo Pope?
Ndadibana noobhishophu abaninzi apho ndandimenywe khona; yaye kwiimeko ezininzi baye bandenza ndibatyelele ngokwawo. Kwaye bonke abefundisi abandimemeleyo ezicaweni zabo kungenxa yokuba bayasiqonda isigidimi seVangeli kwimiyalezo yeNkosikazi Yethu. Kwimiyalezo yeNenekazi Lethu babona isicelo esifanayo sikaBawo Oyingcwele esiphindaphindwayo sokushumayela kwakhona kwehlabathi.
Oobhishophu abaninzi baye bangqina kum ngokuzinikela okukhethekileyo kukaJohn Paul II kuMariya, nto leyo engqinwayo kubo bonke ubupopu bakhe. Ndihlala ndikhumbula ukuba ngo-Agasti 25, 1994, xa uBawo Ongcwele wayeseCroatia kwaye iNtombi Enyulu ibhekisela kuye, ngokoqobo, njengesixhobo sayo: "Bantwana abathandekayo, namhlanje ndisondele kuni ngendlela ekhethekileyo, ukuze ndithandazele isipho ubukho bonyana wam endimthandayo ezweni lakowenu. Thandazani bantwana ngempilo yonyana wam endimthandayo obandezelekileyo kwaye endimkhethileyo ngeli xesha ». Umntu uphantse acinge ukuba ukungcwaliswa kwehlabathi kwiNenekazi lethu kuxhomekeke kwisigunyaziso esinikwe nguye.

Apha eMedjugorje uninzi loluntu lungumthombo, umfanekiso ophilayo wobutyebi beentshukumo kwiCawe yangoku: ngaba uyavuma?
Xa ndikhona andinandlela yokubuza ukuba ndidibana nabani na ukuba bayinxalenye yeyiphi intshukumo. Xa ndibona bonke abo bantu bethandaza, behleli ezitulweni zeenkonzo, ndizixelele ukuba sonke siyinxalenye yeCawe enye, sikwindawo enye.
Andiwazi amakhubalo athile eentshukumo zomntu ngamnye, kodwa ndiqinisekile ukuba zizixhobo eziluncedo kakhulu zokusindisa abo bathe rhoqo kubo logama nje beseCaweni, bathanda iCawa kwaye basebenzela umanyano lwayo; yaye ukuze kwenzeke oku kufuneka bakhokele ngababingeleli okanye abo bangcwalisiweyo. Ukuba kukho abantu abalele entloko, kuya kubaluleka ukuba kusoloko kukho unxibelelwano olusondeleyo kunye neCawa kunye nababingeleli bendawo, kuba kule meko kukho isiqinisekiso esikhulu sokukhula ngokomoya ngokweVangeli.
Kungenjalo ingozi yokutyibilika okuyingozi iyanda, ingozi yokuphelela kude nemfundiso kaYesu Kristu. Kwaye oku kuyinyani kuluntu olutsha, olukwaseMedjugorje luchume ngokukhawuleza okungaqhelekanga. Ndiqinisekile ukuba uMariya uyavuya kuba abaninzi banqwenela ukuzahlulela kuThixo okanye ukwenza indlela yokuphila egxile ngakumbi emthandazweni, nangona kunjalo kuyafuneka ukuba uphaphe kwaye wonke usebenze kwicala elinye. Kwaye kuluntu olulapha, umzekelo, ndicela ingqalelo ekhethekileyo kwizikhokelo zerhamente kunye nobhishophu, omele igunya leCawa yamaKatolika eMedjugorje. Ngaphandle koko, umngcipheko kukuba wonke umntu uwela kwisilingo esidala esifanayo sokwenza iparishi yedwa.
Emva kwayo yonke loo nto, nina baboni beningabokuqala ukukrwelela unxibelelwano lwakho njengoluthembekileyo, kunye neNenekazi lethu njengomfundisi womthandazo, kunye neparishi yaseMedjugorje ...
ECaweni nakwiCawe.

ECaweni kukho ukuxinana kwemeko yezakwalizwi: umzekelo, sifuna ukuphinda sixoxe ngobungangamsha bukaPope, kukho izikhundla ezahlukeneyo kwimiba efana ne-ecumenism, isayensi, i-bioethics, imigaqo ... Kodwa nakwimfundiso. kunye nenqanaba lokunqula sifikelele kulo ukuze sibuze ubukho bokwenyani bukaYesu kwi-Ekaristi, ixabiso lerosari yasekuhlaleni lilahlekile… Ingaba uMariya ukhathazekile? Ucinga ntoni ngayo?
Andingomfundisi wezakwalizwi, andiyi kufuna ukuwela ndiye kumhlaba ongengowam; Ndingaluchaza uluvo lwam lobuqu. Ndathi abefundisi ngabakhokeli bemvelo bomhlambi umntu amele athembele kuwo. Kodwa ngale nto andithethi ukuba mabangajongi eCaweni, koobhishophu, kuPope, kuba uxanduva lwabo lukhulu ngokwenene. Siphila kwixesha elinzima kuluntu nakubefundisi yaye mna ngokobuqu sibandezeleka gqitha kukubona abefundisi abaninzi kangaka beshiya ibutho labo. Kuyingozi ukuba abefundisi bazivumele ukuba baqhathwe sisimo sengqondo seli hlabathi: ihlabathi lelekaThixo, kodwa ububi bungenile ehlabathini elisiphazamisayo kwinyaniso yobomi bethu.
Makhe ndicace: ukungena kwingxoxo kunye nabo bacinga ngokuhlukileyo kuthi kulungile, kodwa ngaphandle kokuyeka into ebonakalisa ukholo lwethu, ekugqibeleni lubonakalisa i-ego yethu. Ndifuna ukuthemba ukuba apho ndinikela khona abefundisi abathandaza kakhulu, kwaye ngokukodwa abazinikele kwiNkosikazi Yethu, uluntu lusempilweni, luphila ngakumbi, kukho ukuthuthwa ngokomoya; Umthendeleko omkhulu uyadalwa phakathi kombingeleli neentsapho, kwaye uluntu lwerhamente luphakamisa umfanekiso wosapho.
Ukuba umfundisi wakho wecawe unezikhundla kumda ngokubhekiselele kumantyi weCawe, kufuneka wenze ntoni? Ngaba uyamlandela, uyamkhapha okanye, ngenxa yabantwana, uya kwenye indawo?
Ngaphandle koncedo lomnye asikwazi ukuya phambili. Ngokuqinisekileyo kufuneka sithandazele ababingeleli bethu, ukuze uMoya oyiNgcwele ahlaziye uluntu lwethu. Ukuba ungandibuza ukuba loluphi uphawu olukhulu lwembonakalo yeMedjugorje, ndingatsho ukuba ilele kwizigidi zeMinikelo endiyaziyo ukuba ibilawulwa kule minyaka eSt. James, nakubo bonke ubungqina obuvela kulo lonke ilizwe. ilizwe labantu abathi xa bebuyela ekhaya atshintshe ubomi bakhe. Kodwa omnye kwiwaka oguqula intliziyo yakhe emva kokuba elapha uya kwanela yonke into eyenzekileyo kwaye eyenzekayo ukuba ibe nengqiqo.

Zonke iimpendulo zakho zisisithethe kunye nokuthembeka eCaweni, kwiVangeli ...
Kule minyaka ingamashumi amabini uMama wethu akazange asixelele nantoni na engekafumaneki kwiVangeli, uye wayikhumbula kuphela ngeendlela eziliwaka kwimemori ngenxa yokuba abaninzi babeyilibele, kuba namhlanje asisajongi iVangeli. Kodwa kukho yonke into efunekayo, kwaye kufuneka sihlale kunye neVangeli, kunye neVangeli ukuba iBandla lisibonisa, iiSakramente zisibonisa. "Kutheni?", Bandibuza, "iminyaka engamashumi amabini uMama wethu uthetha, ngelixa kwiVangeli uhlala ethule?". Kuba kwiVangeli sinayo yonke into esiyidingayo, kodwa ayisayi kusinceda ukuba asiyiqalisi ukuyiphila. Kwaye iNenekazi lethu lithetha kakhulu kuba lifuna ukuba siphile iVangeli kwaye sinethemba, ngokwenza njalo, ukufikelela wonke umntu kwaye siqinisekise abantu abaninzi kangangoko kunokwenzeka.