U-Ivan waseMedjugorje: Ndiza kukuxelela ngezulu leNdiyibonileyo, yokukhanya

Ngaba usenako ukusixelela ngeli Lulu, kukukhanya?
Xa iNenekazi lethu lifika, into efanayo ihlala iphindaphindwa: kuqala ukukhanya kuza kwaye oku kubenophawu lokuza kwakhe. Emva kokukhanya, iMadonna iza. Oku kukhanya akunakuthelekiswa nako nakuphi na ukukhanya esikubona emhlabeni. Emva kweMadonna unokubona isibhakabhaka, esingekude kangako. Andiva kwanto, ndibona ubuhle bokukhanya, kwesibhakabhaka, andazi ukuba ndingakucacisa njani, uxolo, uvuyo. Ngokukodwa xa iLady yethu ivela ngamaxesha athile kunye neengelosi, eli bhakabhaka lisondela kuthi.

Ngaba ungathanda ukuhlala apho ngonaphakade?
Ndikhumbula kakuhle xa uMama wethu wakha wandikhokelela ezulwini wandibeka endulini. Kwakubonakala ngathi ndimile kwi "blue cross" kwaye ngaphantsi kwethu kwakukho isibhakabhaka. UMama wethu wancuma wandibuza ukuba ndiyafuna na ukuhlala apho. Ndiphendule: "Hayi, hayi, okwangoku, ndicinga ukuba usandidinga, Mama". Emva koko uMama wethu wancuma, wajika intloko yakhe sabuyela emhlabeni.

Sikunye nawe ecaweni. Uye wamisa le ndlu ukuze ube nakho ukufumana abahambi ngasese ngexesha lokuvela kunye nokuthula emthandazweni wakho.
Icawe ebendinayo ukuza kuthi ga ngoku ibisendlwini yam. Yayiligumbi endilungiselele intlanganiso noMadonna ukuba yenzeke apho. Igumbi belincinci kwaye bekukho nendawo encinci yabo bandindwendweleyo kwaye bafuna ukubakho ngexesha lokubonakala. Ke ndaye ndagqiba kwelokuba ndakhe i-chapel enkulu apho ndingafumana khona iqela elikhulu labahambi ngezonqulo. Namhlanje ndiyavuya ukukwazi ukufumana amaqela amakhulu abahambi ngezonqulo, ngakumbi abakhubazekileyo. Nangona kunjalo, le ndlu ayenzelwanga kuphela abahambi ngezonqulo, kodwa ikwayindawo yam, apho ndinokubuyela khona nosapho lwam kwikona yokomoya, apho sinokufunda khona iRosari kungekho mntu usiphazamisayo. Akukho Sigramente sisikelelekileyo kule ndlu, akukho Misa zibhiyozelwayo. Yindawo nje yokuthandaza apho umntu anokuguqa khona ezitratweni athandaze.

Umsebenzi wakho kukuthandazela iintsapho kunye nababingeleli. Ungazinceda njani iintsapho ezikwizilingo ezinzulu namhlanje?
Namhlanje imeko yeentsapho inzima kakhulu, kodwa mna ndibona iNenekazi lethu yonke imihla, ndingatsho ukuba imeko ayizinzanga. UMongameli wethu ulapha iminyaka engama-26 ukusibonisa ukuba akukho meko zimbi. Kukho uThixo, kukho ukholo, kukho uthando nethemba. Inenekazi lethu linqwenela ukugxininisa ngaphezulu kwayo yonke le nto ukuba ezi zinto zintle kufuneka zibe kwindawo yokuqala kusapho. Ngubani onokuphila namhlanje, ngeli xesha, ngaphandle kwethemba? Akukho mntu, nkqu nabo bangenalo ukholo. Eli hlabathi lithanda izinto eziphathekayo linika izinto ezininzi kwiintsapho, kodwa ukuba iintsapho azikhuli ngokomoya kwaye azichithi xesha emthandazweni, ukufa ngokomoya kuyaqala. Nangona kunjalo umntu uzama ukutshintsha izinto zokomoya ngezinto eziphathekayo, kodwa oku akunakwenzeka. UMongameli wethu ufuna ukusikhupha kwesi sihogo. Sonke namhlanje siphila emhlabeni ngesantya esikhawulezayo kwaye kulula kakhulu ukuthi asinalo ixesha. Kodwa ndiyazi ukuba abo bathanda into bayalifumana nexesha layo, ke ukuba sifuna ukulandela uMama wethu kunye nemiyalezo yaKhe, kufuneka sifumane ixesha loThixo.Ngoko ke usapho kufuneka luthandaze yonke imihla, kufuneka sinyamezele kwaye sithandaze ngokuqhubekayo. Namhlanje akukho lula ukuqokelela abantwana kumthandazo oqhelekileyo, ngako konke abanako. Akukho lula ukuyichaza yonke le nto ebantwaneni, kodwa ukuba sithandaza kunye, ngalo mthandazo uqhelekileyo abantwana baya kuqonda ukuba yinto entle.

Kwintsapho yam ndizama ukuhlala ndihlala ndithandaza. Xa ndiseBoston kunye nosapho lwam, sithandaza ekuseni, ngenjikalanga nangokuhlwa. Xa ndilapha eMedjugorje ngaphandle kosapho lwam, umfazi wam uyayenza nabantwana. Ukuze senze oku, kufuneka kuqala singohlule kwezinye izinto, kuba sineminqweno kunye neminqweno.

Xa sibuyela ekhaya sidiniwe, kufuneka kuqala sizinikele ngokupheleleyo kubomi bosapho oluqhelekileyo. Ngapha koko, nalo ngumsebenzi katata wosapho. Akunyanzelekanga ukuba sithi: “andinaxesha, ndidiniwe”. Thina bazali, njengamalungu osapho aphambili, kufuneka sibengabokuqala, kufuneka sibe ngumzekelo kwezethu ekuhlaleni.

Kukwakho nefuthe elomeleleyo lwangaphandle kusapho: uluntu, isitalato, ukungathembeki… Usapho lonzakele ngokwamanqanaba amaninzi. Amaqabane ajongene njani nomtshato namhlanje? Ngaphandle kokulungiselela. Bangaphi kubo abanomdla wobuqu ekutshateni, kwiminqweno yobuqu? Akukho sapho luqinileyo lunokwakhiwa phantsi kweemeko ezinjalo. Xa abantwana befika, abazali abaninzi abakulungelanga ukubakhulisa. Abayilungeli imiceli mngeni emitsha. Sinokubabonisa njani abantwana bethu into elungileyo ukuba thina ngokwethu asikulungelanga ukuyifunda okanye ukuyivavanya? Kwimiyalezo, uMama wethu uhlala ephinda ukuba kufuneka sithandazele ubungcwele kusapho. Namhlanje, ubungcwele kusapho bubaluleke kakhulu kuba akukho Bandla liphilayo ngaphandle kokuhlala kunye neentsapho ezingcwele. Namhlanje usapho kufuneka luthandaze kakhulu ukuze uthando, uxolo, ulonwabo kunye nemvisiswano lubuye.